This thread has kind of turned into “Commandos for Jesus”. I don’t think any further intelligent conversation is possible now.
There has also been some name-calling, elitism, and bigotry here too disguised as sanctimonious virtue signaling.
Yet despite this, many fine Christian people are defending good, innocent, law-abiding people from having imposed upon them, “Collective Guilt” and an illicit stripping away of their rights.
We have seen the law-abiding poor people, particularly targeted for excessive harm by some people here too.
Many Christians have done a great job at countering pernicious Government nanny-state Socialist ideology here that looks to Government as their Messiah.
Government as messiah or “political messianism” is a particularly pestilent or “intrinsically perverse” view of Government as our Deliverer or Messiah (political messianism).
Thank goodness many Christians can recognize it and expose those ideas when they are attempting to be foisted upon (at least partially) an unsuspecting society.
CCC 675 Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.
CCC 676b . . . The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the “intrinsically perverse” political form of a secular messianism.
I DO think there is room for MORE intelligent conversation.