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I'm an Anglican and know that within our denomination there is much to be improved on. (For instance, I think there is much to be learnt from Catholics regarding a higher view of Mary in response to the verse "...henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.")
However, I subscribe to the words of Billy Graham "'By all means look for the perfect church, and when you find it, join it. But remember, when you join it, it ceases to be perfect!"
One who seeks the perfect Church will have to wait a very long time (until death) to find it.
Hence the question, do you think there is value instead in staying in your own church and in the words of Mahatma Gandhi "Be the change you want to see"?
Hi and welcome to the forums. May your day be very blessed.
In answer to your excellent question, it depends on which church you are in. :highprayer:
Christ, Who is Perfect, founded the Catholic Church. Who founded the others? The link above is eye opening.
Humans, being imperfect, have the Church's Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation when we fail.
Also, I believe you would enjoy the website for the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter. The Holy See has provided a way for Anglicans to return to the Church Christ Founded.
One is comforted to know of the Catholic Church's proper Apostolic Succession and valid Holy Orders, among countless other graces and means to salvation, joy and peace with our Dear Jesus. Sacraments, history, tradition, the wisdom of the Magisterium, these are what we seek to help us work* towards *perfection.
There was no other Church for over 1500 years. That is a good place to begin contemplating where we are in our faith journey. So much history shows us that nationalism (and Henry VIII's wish for his many divorces) as well as the myriad problems involved with "personal interpretation of scripture" are at the heart of all the thousands of protestant denominations which cannot agree with each other.
The above link speaks to these issues. Do we want a church founded by a mere human or founded by The Divine Christ? Do we want a church founded on political viewpoints or personal agendas? No, we long for Christ's Divine Church. In Her, we need not to be perfect to enter, but to allow Christ's grace to work within us.
We are the Church that stands for life and is not afraid to speak of it. We are the Church Christ Founded. It is not that we are above others, it is Christ who is Perfect who gave His life for the Church.
*Christ Himself answered your question: *
In handing the keys of the Kingdom to St. Peter, Christ spoke of Holy Church, "The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." Christ knew we would be assailed from within and without. Human perfection? Difficult, but we are told* to strive for it *within the Ark of the Church. "Be ye therefore perfect as I am perfect."
The Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation are meant to help us through. The Mass is the center of our Faith. "We consume Him so that He consumes us," is the famous saying. We need proper Apostolic Succession, begun with Christ's words to Peter, in order to avail ourselves of this joy.
I am sorry that I couldn't put two links in this one reply. I tried to retrieve the latter one and lost the first.) I'll reply again with the link regarding the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter.
I am a convert from a U.S. Episcopalian denomination, (from 2004,) before this Ordinariate was completed. It's a wonderful way to reach out to Anglicans across the world seeking to be reconciled with Holy Church. Many are already returning Home!
May God Bless you.:heaven: