I find it interesting that people who claim REASON as their god(small g) assume so much and do not hold to truths.
God has revealed that math cannot be parsed. it is what it is and is absolute truth.
Reason only confirms truths that God has created, which cannot be parsed, they are what they are, whether that be the atomic make up of everything in the universe known to mankind, or the fact that it always takes a male and female human being to conceive a child. no exceptions whatsoever, you absolutely need a sperm and an egg.
Therefore because reason only confirms truth, persons claiming reason as their god have to lie to themselves and others in orde to justify their position. in other words, they do not have the capacity in their minds to think deeply enough, or wisely enough to see truth in most any matter. they seem to find a way out of the conversation by side tracking and diverting attention to something else, even if that be a particular word.
They live on non truths, non scientific, non truths, and unreasonable insufficient thinking. human thinking, which is not of God, but of the world.
You ask a person who’s god is reason, how did the first humans communicate with God, even though they knew of no way to communicate with God, and the person will tell you that
“the same same way muhammed thought the angel gabriel was speaking to him”.
This makes no sense, and does not answer the question, but diverts the question towards something entirely different.
The first humans did not have ANY reference to angels, to God, to anything, they just knew something much bigger and more intelligent was out there and they wanted to contact this creator if you will, and so they tested this power greater than themselves in many ways. this is no different than if you were to have a forest in the wilderness and you absolutely knew there were people living there, yet you never saw them, yet you see the evidence of them being there(spearheads, footprints etc) so you try to communicate with them to let them know you want to be friends with them. you leave them food, gifts, things humans desire and need to live, animal skins for warmth etc… to show them you know they are there, even though you have not seen them.
You communicate in the most basic form you can, that you yourself know you could identify with.
this has occurred again and again throughout the history of the world.
yet the person with reason as their god cannot reason this way, they jump to rediculous conclusions and make false claims to try to confuse others and somehow justify their own lies to themselves and others, to protect their so called "reason and intellect"
of which they are not even using.
Reason and intellect reveal Truth from factual evidences that speak of that particular Truth.