I just posted this in the ask an apologist thread
and am VERY greatful to Fr Vincent for giving me a start to the answer on this matter. It’s great to hear he didn’t think that I was mortal sinning! However I’m still a little confused and was hoping to delve in a bit deeper on discussion on the matter.
The posting- Does mortal sin destroy all charity?
I’m so confused and almost want to guess ‘no’ as I know many people who commit mortal sin that still love God with all of their heart.
For example even myself, I’ve not woken up for Mass when my alarm clock has gone off. The church says this is ‘grave’, I ‘know’ the church says this is grave, and although of course I would never really want to skip, in that moment I’m willfully choosing my self and sleep above God.
But after I still have LOVED God just as deeply and ardently as before while in this state of mortal sin- woke up, hated myself for sleeping, said a rosary, made sure to go sometime during the week. If I were to have died I would NEVER choose to be separated from Him.
I can make this work with the CCC to a point
1855 Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man
1822 Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God.
So in mortal sinning I’m not loving God above ‘all’ things but I can still LOVE him, thus being capable of repenting.
But then the CCC seems like it contradicts itself the further you read on Hell-
We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves.
And then according to this, in a state of mortal sin we don’t love him, our souls are in a place where we would willfully choose to separate our self from him at death.
Help I just can’t make this work (knowing myself and others who mortal sin and still passionately love God while in the state- would so choose Him and Heaven if died without confession) and reconcile in my mind or understand what mortal sin does to us.
Does mortal sin destroy Charity? Thanks so much!
I’m still confused a little by Father’s response, does the Church take the position of the first set of quotes that we just don’t love him ‘above all things’ when we loose charity/mortal sin?
Or the second? That we don’t love him at ‘all’ if we loose charity/ mortal sin?
If not at all, how could we ever repent? A lot of people out of a deep love do make ‘perfect contritions’ no?