[quote="opus101, post:7, topic:315025"]
Personally, I think a number of you are completely missing the point. If you read the entire pastoral letter, you might get a better understanding of the bishop's teaching.
In it he makes a distinction between secular and "sacred" music, he is not talking about the difference between secular and simply "religious" music. Bishop Olmsted, last year, was able to describe the difference between "sacred" and "religious" music quite clearly.
Pop/secular styles of music are often used in "religious" music, but are never used in truly "sacred music". Sacred music is music that is used specifically for the divine liturgy... "Sacred" in the sense that it is "set aside". It has a character that is not merely "religious", but recognizably sacred (for sacred purposes alone).
For instance, Hebrew folk music was not used in the temple sacrifices, nor in the synagogue - Hebrew chant was their "sacred music". Amost all cultures and religions have a type of music that is associated with the sacred alone.
FIne. But, you asked what our thoughts were. So, we gave them to you. I have a great deal of respect for Bishop Olmsted as well as Bishop Sample. I've skimmed his letter (haven't had time to read it in its entirety, yesterday WAS Ash Wednesday, you know). I, and others, do not deny that there is such a thing as sacred music.
In another similar thread you said this,
It is hard for some to believe that they have been led down the wrong path for so long...but it is the simple truth. There is no judgement here about their intentions - all are probably people of good will, and sincerely devout. But also, they are unfortunately poorly formed, misled and misinformed.
With respect, I was not poorly formed. I went to one of the finest seminaries in the United States and had perfectly fine and orthodox professors of liturgy. I do not reject the reality that there is sacred music. I am not, in any way, asserting that EVERYTHING should be permitted. There are certain P&W songs that I do think are inappropriate for liturgy. But, I would not go so far as to say ALL P&W songs are unfit for liturgy or that drums and guitars ought NEVER be permitted. Do I think they should be the norm? No. But not being the norm is a far cry from never.
Now, I am not talking about folk, country, jazz, blues, rap, or anything else. I'm talking about contemporary Christian praise and worship music as you might hear on KLOVE and other similar radio stations. Even some of this strikes me as not appropriate for Mass. But, NOT ALL of it. Let me give some examples of things that seem to me to be perfectly appropriate for the celebration of Holy Mass:
Remembrance by Matt Maher
Christ is Risen by Matt Maher
Whom Shall I Fear by Chris Tomlin
The Stand by Kristian Stanfil/Hillsong (yes, it's Protestant...as I said above, Aristotle was pagan)
Not for a Moment by Meredith Andrews
Lifted High by Andy Needham
Your Great Name by Natalie Grant
These are just a few.
What I'm interested in though is the reason behind this question? I don't mean to single you out opus101. You just happen to be the individual to whom I am responding right now. But, why is there so much vitriol on this site? I've never experienced so much anger towards priests and bishops as I do on this web site. It's almost as though among faithful Catholics there is a game being played about who can critique Fr. So and so's Mass the most, who can quote the most magisterial documents to prove his position, and who can prove himself to be the most traditional/orthodox. Rather than fostering dialogue, this hinders it.
Frankly, and again, I don't mean to single you out, but your post plays right into what I'm talking about. In your initial post, you asked for our opinions. I gave mine. It didn't match with yours, so your response was that I must not understand the point. So, in other words, it seems to me that you think I only understand the point if I happen to agree with you. Otherwise, I don't understand the point.
Elsewhere, I have had people implicitly assert that someone with a couple of undergraduate classes in ethics or morals from a secular university knows more about moral theology than the professor of morals at my seminary, a man who earned his doctorate in the field.
I suspect that after reading this, many might suspect me for being a "liberal" priest. It might surprise some to learn that a JPII generation priest who wears a cassock, enjoys using Latin in the liturgy, isn't afraid to preach on contraception and abortion, and hears confessions everyday actually enjoys contemporary music and thinks it has a place for use in the liturgy. But, that is the situation.
I realize this is straying from the topic at hand, but I feel like this needs to be said on this board. As it stands now, I would not recommend these fora to someone interested in exploring the faith. Understand, it's not that I have any huge disagreement with what is written here. I disagree with the tone in which it is often presented. The end result fosters an inherent spirit of suspicion among the faithful. The faithful then stop praying, and start questioning. We start worrying more about how Father holds his hands during the orans position than the state of our hearts. We start worrying more about whether or not the introductory rite used was approved than whether or not we are examining our consciences preparing to receive the King of Kings into our very bodies.
OK...off rant...off soap box. That's all I have to say, but I felt like I needed to say it. I'd be happy to have a civil conversation with you, opus101, or anyone else, on the issue at hand, which is Bishop Sample's pastoral letter.