[quote="Cloisters, post:12, topic:174023"]
I cannot reveal the friar's name without his permission.
If we knew where the group would be emerging, we would know which Provincial to notify.
The Master General is still relatively new, and I did not want to bother him with this just yet. There's not a lot he can do, other than pray for the effort. I'll be very surprised if he does do more than just pray for the project.
With the Gilbertine Renewal, the Abbot Primate of the Benedictines assured us of his prayers. He can't do much more than that.
Any charism which has been suppressed for less than 100 years can be renewed complete with habit. In this case, the updates (which were minimal) required by VatII would have to be edited into the constitutions. The constitutions have to be lived before any bishop can issue a letter raising the group to Private Association. (There are at least three kinds of private association, and that designation is one of them). Until the group knows what works for them, nobody is going to recognize it.
Then, to be very frank,Cloisters, by all means either get this Friar's permission or stop advertizing the group and saying you have his support. Until you do this, and until people can actually see who is involved and in what specific way (not to mention being able to contact these folks to ask them serious questions), this is nothing more than a pipe dream at best and a possible fraud at worst.
Prescinding from past situations where Cloisters Outreach has misrepresented the actual situation, I will say it makes no sense to me to have people buying into a non-existent pipe-dream with no established formation program, no professed Dominicans who can impart and genuinely help form people in the Dominican Charism. For a genuine charism to emerge it has to be a combination of personal vision, real historical circumstances and need, as well as competent people living (and being formed to live) the vision. Dreaming up some sort of so-called charism apart from concrete historical circumstances does not measure up to the way these things actually come to be --- with real people coming together, seeking appropriate expert help, etc. Until one has the combination of 1) concrete historical circumstances/needs 2) a vision which responds to these, and is 3) genuinely embodied in flesh and blood lives, there is no charism.
In other words, charism refers to something real, not imaginary, which is a gift of the Holy Spirit to the Church and world. It is not merely an idea --- not even if that is a brilliant idea. When religious congregations speak of their charism they are referring to more than the vision on or around which they were eventually founded. They include the concrete way this vision is embodied in the lives of members and touches those outside the community --- and this is true even in speaking of an "emerging" charism. It needs to be emerging from somewhere besides someone's dreams. Similar comments could be made about designating something Dominican, for instance when there are no Dominicans involved at any concrete level. Having the prayers of the Master General hardly makes something Dominican in any sense at all --- no more than having the prayers of the Pope makes something Papal or of those of one's local Bishop makes something diocesan.
The bottom line here is that as you make clear in your initial response to my questions, there is really no community (fledgling or otherwise), no formation program, no concrete situation which real people are responding to, no supporting congregation, no actual founder and no concrete tie with the Dominicans which can be identified. Thus, at this point in time, such a project is a fiction and a fantasy and nothing more. The rest of what you describe uses some slippery language (all the letter of the law stuff) to distract from the void at the center of everything, but the bottom line remains the same: there is nothing real here.