Donald Trump: We're going to 'open up' libel laws


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POLITICO:

Donald Trump: We’re going to ‘open up’ libel laws

Donald Trump said on Friday he plans to change libel laws in the United States so that he can have an easier time suing news organizations.During a rally in Fort Worth, Texas, Trump began his usual tirade against newspapers such as The New York Times and The Washington Post, saying they’re “losing money” and are “dishonest.” The Republican presidential candidate then took a different turn, suggesting that when he’s president they’ll “have problems.”

“One of the things I’m going to do if I win, and I hope we do and we’re certainly leading. I’m going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We’re going to open up those libel laws. So when The New York Times writes a hit piece which is a total disgrace or when The Washington Post, which is there for other reasons, writes a hit piece, we can sue them and win money instead of having no chance of winning because they’re totally protected,” Trump said.

Under current law, largely determined at the state instead of federal level, public persons, such as politicians, can win a suit against a media organization only if the person can prove that the publication published information with actual malice, knowing it to be wholly incorrect, as well as in cases of reckless disregard. The case that set this precedent — *New York Times Co. v. Sullivan — *was decided by the Supreme Court in 1964.


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If I were the Donald, I would be careful with that. I just saw some of the attack ads he’s running in the Texas markets (multiple times in one hour) and what’s sauce for the goose would be sauce for the gander. :rolleyes:

“Reckless disregard for the truth” is the phrase I think lawyers use.


#3

Trump will be limited by the Constitution, just like any other president would be.
People love to hear this kind of thing though It at least sounds empowering against the powers that be.


#4

The Constitution’s ability to limit anyone is dependent on those willing (or unwilling) to hold that person accountable.

It is probably more accurate to say that Trump could be limited by the Constitution.


#5

The Idiocracy is upon us! We all must pray for salvation from ourselves.


#6

It’s down to three socialists:

Trump(See first debate)
Clinton
Sanders…

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


#7

LOL and he called others thin skinned?

Trump is used to making up his own rules, if he wins, I don’t see him wanting to follow the constitution. He’s going to be out for himself only, as he’s always been.


#8

Freedom is no longer as valued by Americans and their courts as once was the case. There is no reason for complacency, to be sure.

Further, America is suffering from idolatry of celebrity worship, where the public and those in public institutions are more than willing to give the rich and famous free passes on all sorts of egregious and even evil behaviors. Jonah Goldberg has written a recent article on how far this lack of accountability can extend.

That being said, what Trump is suggesting goes contrary to the limits set out in the Constitution, as they have been understood up until this point of time.


#9

Trump is forgetting that its Congress who makes laws and appropriates money for government spending.

Being the president of the USA, isn’t like being a CEO of a corporation.

He can’t hire and fire members of Congress who don’t do what they’re told.

Jim


#10

While I don’t have an opinion one way or the other it doesn’t seem to me this is a particularly strange idea. As I understand libel laws in Britain, and no doubt other countries, are more like what I assume Trump means by opening up. There simply being wrong is libel whereas in the US there is a different standard of malice.

Lawmakers from both parties have tweaked laws to do things like give the Disney corporation an extension on the rent it collects for its intellectual property. A difference here is stricter libel laws could actually benefit the common man whereas the IP laws benefit very few and probably mostly corporations.


#11

The voice of reason. :thumbsup:


#12

Trump seems very thin-skinned to me. As one new commentator (can’t remember who) said to Trump, “You like to dish it out, but you can’t take a punch.” Trump seemed surprised.


#13

The unelected media outlets have waaay too much power over our society. This is especially evident in Presidential politics. Those who hold The Power painted a glowing image of Obama despite his past yet kicked Herman Cain to the curb in short order. Too many people only see and believe what The Power wants us to see and believe, and that’s far from a democratic process.


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Thomas Jefferson, Founding Father, primary author of the Declaration of Independence:

“The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.” --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:57

“The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure.” --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823. ME 15:491

“Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it.” --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.

famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/thomasjefferson/jeff1600.htm


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Freedom of the press is always one of the first things to go as a dictator takes power.

Governments do not take generations to collapse. Recent history shows it only takes a few years with a population willing to close their eyes and pretend, as a single man – with the right supporters – rewrites law according to his own needs and desires.

Cape Breton is looking better everyday :whistle:


#16

It’s not thin-skinned to fight back for your reputation.

A thin-skinned person would not have lasted three days with the kind of exposure Trump has gotten in the media. He’s been called Hitler, racist, women-hater, bigot, what have you. A thin-skinned person would have apologized and walked off the stage with the tail between his legs.


#17

Good one!!!:thumbsup:


#18

Oh come on, I tend to doubt that his highness who loves to be in charge will not use executive orders to rule.


#19

The Press that calls pro-lifers anti-abortion and barely covered the Gosnell trial is being stuck up for?


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