=newenglandsun;11310540]I had a friend recently show me the following quote from N.T. Wright.
“Though attempts are made to align the ‘dormition’ of Mary (her ‘falling asleep’, i.e. her death) with her ‘assumption’, the two are in fact significantly different. The Orthodox say Mary died and that her body is resting and will eventually be rejoined with her soul; the Romans say she didn’t die, and that both her body and soul are already in Heaven.”
Which makes absolutely no sense to me because he has told me that the Orthodox and Catholic Mariology is quite different and I’m guessing because of this quote. I just recently got some books on Orthodox and Catholic Mariology (albeit from only Anglo-Catholic and Orthodox perspectives) hoping to clear some confusion up.
Does anybody know what N.T. Wright is meaning when he says “attempts” because from Pope Pius XII’s definition of the doctrine of the Assumption, he certainly makes it clear that Mary died. Wright doesn’t make any citations which I also find odd.
Also, my friend’s a Biblicist and doesn’t take anything if it “can’t be found in the Bible”. He’s a pastor at an Evangelical Covenant Church.
For All the Saints p. 23
First thanks for asking:)
As to your friend, suggest the last two chapters of John’s Gospel:
John 20:30-31 “Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name.”
John 21:24-25 “This is that disciple who giveth testimony of these things, and hath written these things; and we know that his testimony is true. But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written”
AND THEN ASK for evidence of their position that “everything is in the bible”
I Love our Brethern in the Eastern churches BUT be carful of the One is SCHISM.
Christ choose Peter alone to HEAD his new One Faith in One Church religion. Mt. 16:1519
And Commanded ONLY the Apostles through Peter to TEACH His Faith.
Mark 16:14-15 & Mt. 28:16-20 are very cleay nd precise about this.
AND Only the catholic church[s] have Christ and the Holy Spirit to guide, guard and PROTECT it it teaching the FULLNESS of God’s truth
" I have given them thy word, and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world; as I also am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from evil. Sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. ***[this means with God OWN Powers and Authority!] *** And for them do I sanctify myself [only and exclusively] , that they also may be sanctified in truth. **And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word **shall believe in me; That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."
God Bless you!
Patrick [PJM] Here on CAF