Drexel professor loves his country...

Will Drexel continue to employ him?

m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/29/george-ciccariello-drexel-professor-wants-to-vomit/

Sweet guy. If his Christmas wish for white genocide wasn’t enough to fire him, I suspect being a complete turd on twitter with regards to the military won’t do it either.

My son was accepted to Drexel starting in the fall of this year. He will not be attending…

This guy is obviously a doofus, but, just to pivot a little bit off of this story: I do find it a little uncomfortable when people go over the top and practically worship people in uniform. Giving up an airline seat or buying a drink is one thing, but some people really make the military into something almost sacred.

The guy is a hypocrite. White genocide? The guy is white…!!! If he truly wants white genocide he should lead by example!

If Drexel responds at all, I’m sure it will be academic pablum wrapped-up in freedom of speech and expression, intellectual freedom to be provocative, whatever. A professor who mocked someone for showing a kindness to, say, a Muslim would of course already have been fired, and tarred and feathered as well.

Pray he can overcome his ego.

True, dat!

Really? Why should be fired for referring to “white genocide” facetiously?

Seems like you adhere to a form of conservative political correctness where one cannot extol the accomplishments of any socialist government, say negative things about capitalism, or criticize the military or police.

Conservatives complain about “special snowflakes”, but they show their righteous indignation when someone says something politically incorrect or generates conservative disgust and are upset when authorities do not fire or restrict that person.

From the linked article:

The tweet, which has been shared nearly 2,000 times and “liked” by over 800 others, did not escape the attention of Townhall columnist — and veteran — Kurt Schlichter.

Why not ignore George Ciccariello? Why is this worth any attention? Conservatives just report this to generate moral outrage and flak. Professor George Ciccariello is not Colin Kaepernick who is much harder to ignore due to his previous accomplishments and the fact that the NFL is a more visible platform.

After all Professor Ciccariello is just telling people his emotions (disgust indicating that he wants to vomit). Conservatives feel the same thing too on different things.

If Drexel responds at all, I’m sure it will be academic pablum wrapped-up in freedom of speech and expression, intellectual freedom to be provocative, whatever. A professor who mocked someone for showing a kindness to, say, a Muslim would of course already have been fired, and tarred and feathered as well.

How is it pablum? Universities really adhere to those policies.

If I remember correctly, Kevin MacDonald was not fired from CSULB for his advocacy of white nationalism and his work on Jews. (As far as I know, MacDonald was not a truculent person and did not proselytize in the class even though he advocated policies that are abhorrent to many outside an academic setting. Students only became aware of his political positions if they searched him online or someone told them about his views.) Arthur Butz wasn’t also fired from Northwestern University for Holocaust denial.

Even leftists such as Ward Churchill are fired on a unanimous verdict, so academia will not look the other way regarding leftists on what is perceived as genuine misconduct. Melissa Click was dismissed from Mizzou.

The guy is a hypocrite. White genocide? The guy is white…!!! If he truly wants white genocide he should lead by example!

Why the reference to suicide? Also, your post could be construed as advocating a killing spree (and murder-suicide) against white people.

Over the top and almost worship? Sacred? Can you give a further example of what you are talking about? Those are pretty strong words if you are merely tired of the positive attention vets are finally receiving.

Like a specific example? Not really. Just seen some people treat people in uniform like the Second Coming, which I find a little over the top. You get the impression from listening to them that people in the military are infallible and incapable of doing wrong.

Well, military folks are not perfect because nobody is, but they have saved our bacon plenty of times.
They deserve respect. The way American vets are treated is shameful.
This guy is a jerk. First class.

Okay, well, I still have no idea what you are talking about then, but you are entitled to your opinion.

It’s just sort of a cultural thing, I can’t think of a specific encounter. Some people have this idea that everyone in uniform is an amazing, near perfect saint. All the fawning gives some service members a big head and they feel entitled to freebies and special treatment wherever they go, and they start think they’re somehow “better” than civilians, which is not the healthiest attitude for a democracy.

I have found the opposite to be true. The veterans I meet are humble and disliked being thanked for their service. They love their country and that is why they served. I don’t know any that feel “entitled” or receiving “special treatment wherever they go.”

I do think that you continue to speak in generalizations though, “it’s cultural,” “some people have this idea,” “fawning,” are not very good examples, they are your opinion. And if you want to put forth this opinion, it just would have been nice to have something more specific. :shrug: It’s a little condescending to lump veterans into such a negative grouping over nothing.

I’m not sure what you’re looking for. Anecdotes? I can think of multiple times I’ve heard servicemembers huff about having to wait in line, or pay full price for something, etc, often with some variation on “Even after everything we do for these people…” It’s almost always a private who has never deployed, too, for extra comedy.

Just to sort of turn my cards over here, I’ve been in the military in some form for over ten years (and now I feel old…). I’ve served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I’m certainly aware of how demanding military service can be.

But I think in their admirable desire to show appreciation and correct for the way Vietnam vets were treated, some (not all, obviously, but some) people put everyone in uniform on an impossibly high pedestal. Believe me, not everyone in the military is an American hero. Some people in the military are scumbags. Some are great. Just like any other large group of people.

:thumbsup:

I agree. I too served with some very honorable folks and some less than honorable.

When civilians do something nice for a service member in uniform I think there are a couple of reasons. First is that in this day and age most people have not served, so those that have stand out even more for their willingness to trade everyday from the one they raised their right hand to their last in defense of America.

Second, is what is said by Bono from U2 in this link: m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg3Xzh2cXD8

America is not a place as much as an idea. An idea which has benefitted those who are here and the rest of the planet. It’s why people want to come here rather than Cuba, or Venezuela or Russia. And I think when people show kindness and respect to those in uniform they are reflecting their gratitude for both the idea that is America and their desire to preserve what it is hoping continued benefit for themselves and the world.

Thanks for your comments and service.

Yeah, I agree that it’s coming from a good place. I probably didn’t articulate this well, but my main concern is that sometimes it gets so over the top that the youngsters start expecting to be treated like they walk on water wherever they go. They forget the military serves the citizens, not the other way around.

Many people in Haiti emigrate to Cuba.

I heard a speaker that there really are no values or “American dream” in global migration., Heck, workers migrate from the Philippines and Indonesia to work crummy jobs in the Gulf States.

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