drinking


#1

I would like to know your thoughts on drinking beer on church grounds. Couldn’t that cause a person to stumble?

Thankyou


#2

[quote=JeffCarnacchi]I would like to know your thoughts on drinking beer on church grounds. Couldn’t that cause a person to stumble?

Thankyou
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That depends on how much he drinks!:smiley:

Peace

Tim


#3

Don’t know, but many years ago in the 1970s my band played at a church social and there were lots of families there and they brought wine and beer and set 'em up at their tables…boy, people got plowed! No one parties like that anymore. I wasn’t Catholic at the time but I wondered then if that was common??


#4

I assume you mean at social events held in the parish hall, like weddings, sure its okay if those serving abide by the law, no beer to minors. In our previous parish, when we rented the hall, the renter had to buy a liquor liability policy by state law, so that if somebody got drunk and went out in his car and killed somebody, the Church was not held liable.


#5

Hello Jeff,

When Jesus went to the wedding celibration of Cana He brought with him six thirty gallon jars of wine. I am thinking that when the wedding celibration is at His house, bringing along some alcohol is ok. What do you think?

NAB JOHN 2:1
On the third day there was a wedding in Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding. When the wine ran short, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” (And) Jesus said to her, “Woman, how does your concern affect me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you."
Now there were six stone water jars there for Jewish ceremonial washings, each holding twenty to thirty gallons. Jesus told them, “Fill the jars with water.” So they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, “Draw some out now and take it to the headwaiter.” So they took it. And when the headwaiter tasted the water that had become wine, without knowing where it came from (although the servers who had drawn the water knew), the headwaiter called the bridegroom and said to him, “Everyone serves good wine first, and then when people have drunk freely, an inferior one; but you have kept the good wine until now.”

Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com


#6

I would say so but then I’m a Puritian Catholic.

What its the German American club for.


#7

Yeah, one can stumble there just as easily as stumbling when one walks by a tavern or liquir store. It is not like the church requires you to have a drink. Would you stay away from Mass because some of the women dress in a way that would make you “stumble”?


#8

[quote=Steven Merten]Hello Jeff,

When Jesus went to the wedding celibration of Cana He brought with him six thirty gallon jars of wine. I am thinking that when the wedding celibration is at His house, bringing along some alcohol is ok. What do you think?

NAB JOHN 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding in Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding. When the wine ran short, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.” (And) Jesus said to her, “Woman, how does your concern affect me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servers, “Do whatever he tells you.”

Now there were six stone water jars there for Jewish ceremonial washings, each holding twenty to thirty gallons. Jesus told them, “Fill the jars with water.” So they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, “Draw some out now and take it to the headwaiter.” So they took it. And when the headwaiter tasted the water that had become wine, without knowing where it came from (although the servers who had drawn the water knew), the headwaiter called the bridegroom and said to him, “Everyone serves good wine first, and then when people have drunk freely, an inferior one; but you have kept the good wine until now.”

Peace in Christ,

Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
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#9

[quote=Steven Merten]When Jesus went to the wedding celebration of Cana He brought with him six thirty gallon jars of wine. I am thinking that when the wedding celibration is at His house, bringing along some alcohol is ok. What do you think?
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And He made all that wine after what had been planned ran out!

A church social event where there is alcohol without drunkenness is a witness. If a parish can’t manage that–that is, it has either too many without the virtue of temperance, a well-grounded fear for the safety of those drinking, a lack of supervision that might allow underage attendees to take advantage of the situation, or a lack of those who can firmly yet discreetly handle the few who over-imbibe–that is another matter. In that case, they need to admit they don’t have the resources for such an event and leave the liquor to home consumption. The question needs to be answered on a case-by-case basis.


#10

My parish is very traditional catholic - in liturgy, the mass, reverence, etc, etc…
We have lots of wedding parties, Christmas parties, St. Paddys Day dinner, seems like we are always having a party for something! And yes we have liquor in the parish hall, beer, wine, and harder stuff.
Yet, I don’t ever recall anyone ever being drunk there.
No one seems to think it is a big deal.


#11

See Demon Rum or heavenly drink? in today’s Dallas Morning News

In the sixth century, St. Bridget of Ireland wrote a poem describing heaven as a lake of beer. The Holy Family resided on its shore, able to lap the frothy drink through all eternity.


#12

[quote=Steven Merten]Hello Jeff,

When Jesus went to the wedding celibration of Cana He brought with him six thirty gallon jars of wine. I am thinking that when the wedding celibration is at His house, bringing along some alcohol is ok. What do you think?

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Wow, that’s equivalent to 908 bottles of wine. I imagine the average person at the wedding feast had a nice healthy portion to drink.

Remember, when it comes to drinking you must cast off the puritan american influence. It’s not a good party unless there is plenty to drink and that includes parties on Church grounds.


#13

[quote=Ham1]Remember, when it comes to drinking you must cast off the puritan american influence.
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Amen to that. I’ve become convinced that wacko attitudes towards alcohol cause more problems than they prevent.

Thou waterest the hills from thy upper rooms: the earth shall be filled with the fruit of thy works: Bringing forth grass for cattle, and herb for the service of men. That thou mayst bring bread out of the earth: And that wine may cheer the heart of man. (Psalm 103)


#14

CHEERS! :smiley:


#15

[quote=Orogeny]That depends on how much he drinks!:smiley:

Peace

Tim
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I can’t believe this went a week without a :thumbsup:

:rotfl:


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