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The last question.. (Sorry for such an enormous thread! This is such a big topic) has to do with the Scriptures..
What did Our Lord mean when He said in Matthew "except for adultery"?
In reading Matthew 5, it sounds like that phrase can be attributed only to the separating part not to the remarriage part. So it could read like a husband makes a woman adulteress by divorcing her (because she might marry) however if she already is adulteress then he's not causing that to happen. (So they can separate, which the Church allows). But for marrying again, the adultery phrase is not included, so its adultery no matter what. Which is the Catholic teaching - they can separate if there's adultery, but not remarry
However I'm stuck with two questions with this.
1) the Church also allows separation for other grave reasons
2) Matthew 19 uses other phrasing which no longer fits with this... newadvent.org/bible/mat019.htm
Can anyone help to figure this out? :shrug:
I notice two interesting things.
The statement about divorce being allowed in OT didn't talk about remarriage... And
In Latin, in Matthew 19 there are different words used for the initial adultery of the woman - fornicationem
And the adultery of the remarriage -mœchatur
Does anyone know enough Latin to compare them or came across any good explanations? COULD the first instance refer to something that would invalidate a marriage, as some believe?
This is the first part out of three.
in st. Luke ch 16:18 our Lord said the following
"Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her that is put away from her husband, committeth adultery. "
This is very clear that one cannot remarry. The Catholic Church is more ancient than any other.
As for saint Matthew ch.5 verses 31-32 says:
"And it hath been said, whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a bill of divorce. But I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, excepting for the cause of fornication, maketh her to commit adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery."
Also saint Matthew ch18 verse 3-12 Our Lord said:
" And there came to him the Pharisees tempting him, and saying: Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? And he said: For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh."
Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder. They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put away? He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.  And I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery. His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry.
Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it."
I left the number of verse 9 on purpose
Because according to Bishop Richard Challenger he explains in his notes:
 "Except it be": In the case of fornication, that is, of adultery, the wife may be put away: but even then the husband cannot marry another as long as the wife is living.
(From the douay-rheims version, which was directly translated from the Latin vulgate)
In the book of saint Mark chapter 10 verse 2-12 Our Lord said
"And the Pharisees coming to him asked him: Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. But he answering, saith to them: What did Moses command you? Who said: Moses permitted to write a bill of divorce, and to put her away. To whom Jesus answering, said: Because of the hardness of your heart he wrote you that precept.
But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife. And they two shall be in one flesh. Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house again his disciples asked him concerning the same thing.
And he saith to them: Whosoever shall put away his wife and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if the wife shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery. "