Since these first few posts are going to act as stickies, I’m going to re-post some (edited) posts from previous threads to (hopefully) answer common complaints.
Originally Posted by NAMEWITHHELD
Why do I feel like all this “end times speculation” stuff is kinda futile, paranoid and Euro-Americentric?
Probably because, depending on your view, it IS futile. We’re just trying to improve our understanding of eschatology.
Euro-Americentric? Given that pretty much ALL of the people who post on this forum are either European or American, is that a problem?
As for paranoid? Well, keep in mind that just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean THEY aren’t out to “get” you.
Welcome to the club.
Originally Posted by NAMEWITHHELD
Well, my view is that trying to guess when the end happens is a waste of time better left for actually being Catholic and not whatever Protestant sect Tim LeHaye and Jerry Jenkins subscribe to. We can’t guess it. We will never guess it. We shouldn’t try to guess it.
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None of this serves any good. We are Catholics! I thought we were better than predicting the apocalypse in such a manner.
(I had a bad week when that message was posted, so I ranted a little.)
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Simply put, READ THE FREAKIN’ THREAD BEFORE YOU START TELLING US WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT WE ARE DOING WRONG!!!
This is the 22nd iteration of this thread. Each thread has been about 1,000 messages long, because a limit in the old version of the forum software limited threads to 1,000. That limitation is no longer in effect, but we still do it anyway because it’s a good way of keeping track of message counts. People have been dropping in, reading and posting on this topic for 8 years. And in that time, every month or so, some newbie drops in, reads two or three of the most recent posts, then goes on to tell us what un-Catholic fools we are to be wasting our time on this subject and leaves, never to be heard from again.
Look at it this way: the word you’re looking for is “eschatology”. It means the study of the End Times. The fact that the professionals have a word just to describe the subject should tell you that it’s pretty important. The other word is “speculation”. We’re not focusing on building the End Times FAQ, we’re trying to deepen our understanding. Are some of the ideas “out there”? Maybe. And if they’re TOTALLY out there we’ll work it out using the CCC, Scripture, and the writings of the Early Church Fathers.
Things are happening in the world. 10 years ago no one would have predicted that “marriage equality” would be on anyone’s radar. Today, IRELAND, the most freakin’ Catholic country on the planet outside of Malta and maybe the Vatican, VOTED to change their constitution to allow for gay “marriage”. Every other instance the change was imposed by above, either small groups of politicians or a few activist judges. People are wondering what is happening, and if we as Catholics don’t have an answer other than patting people on the head and saying, There, there, don’t worry, it will be CENTURIES before anything happens; if then (which is what one of our deacons did to me when I first brought up the subject), then we ARE going to lose people to LaHaye and company.
So please do us the simple, common courtesy of going back and skimming through a few weeks of messages, and see what we’re talking about. THEN come back and tell us that such and such is wrong because here’s what it says in the CCC. Better yet, ask questions. Don’t wallow in vanity, believing that in this wild and wacky world of Roman Catholicism, with 2,000 years (4,000 if you count the Jewish writers of OT Scripture) of very learned people (both male and female – check out the writings of Hildegard of Bingen sometime) writing about eschatology, that everything can be summed up with “We’re Catholics – We don’t deal with such things.” You might get tripped up on the fact that the Magisterium has never made a definitive statement on what the End Times will be.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled reality.
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