Episcopal bishop and his partner united in civil union

Oh brother…

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080608/ap_on_re/gay_bishop

CONCORD, N.H. - The first openly gay Episcopal bishop and his partner of 20 years have been united in a private civil union

The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson was legally joined to Mark Andrew, his partner of 20 years, in a civil ceremony Saturday, the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire announced.

Civil unions became legal in New Hampshire this year.

The union was performed five years to the day after New Hampshire Episcopalians elected him as their bishop.

The civil and a following religious service of thanksgiving were both held at St. Paul’s Church in Concord.

Robinson had made public his intention to join his partner, but had kept the date secret out of concern about security. Spokesman Mike Barwell said the ceremony was intentionally private.

“Initially, the idea was to have it in a public building to make clear it was a public civil ceremony and a private thanksgiving ceremony,” Barwell said Sunday.

The plan changed out of respect for next month’s worldwide Anglican church conference in England, called the Lambeth Conference, and out of concern for the couple’s security.

Robinson had announced in March that he would have no official role in that conference, saying restrictions that organizers wanted to place on his involvement had caused him “considerable pain.”

Robinson was told last year that he could not fully participate in the once-a-decade gathering in England as the world Anglican Communion has been on the brink of schism over his 2003 election.

The civil union was performed by Ronna Wise, a longtime friend and justice of the peace.

About 120 family and close friends attended.

Robinson and Andrew decided to enter the union before Robinson’s trip to ensure they have legal protections New Hampshire’s civil union law gives gay couples. The law bestows all the rights and responsibilities of marriage, which includes inheritance and other rights enjoyed by married couples.

Congrats to the happy couple! I wish them many long good years together. :thumbsup: :cool:

You are aware that a Catholic showing encouragement to someone engaging in grave sin makes them complicit in that grave sin too?

Fr Serpa has spoken:

forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=243725

9 Choirs asked:

Is a Catholic showing encouragement to a non Catholic engaging in homosexual acts moral and in accordance with Church teaching?

If not, does doing so make a Catholic complicit in the grave sin committed by the non Catholic homosexual?


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Fr Serpa answered:**

Hi,

It depends on what kind of encouragement the Catholic is giving. The Catholic may encourage a person regarding hobbies or study or any number of things. But the Catholic may not encourage anyone to sin. The Catholic would be sinning gravely in doing so.

Fr. Vincent Serpa, O.P.

Ave Maria

In this case they are now in a legal union, in this case a Civil Union has most of the rights of a legal marriage from the state. I see that the sin of having relations outside of marriage does not apply here. They are in a lifelong, monogamous relationship which is what the Church prefers.

Remember, being homosexual alone is not a sin.

Legal in the eyes of the state. Not in the eyes of God. The Bible calls this an abomination.

They are in a lifelong, monogamous HOMOSEXUAL relationship which is NOT what the Church prefers.

In fact, since they have now simulated marriage, they are probably in deeper sin that just having a homosexual non-married relationship.

The Catechism clearly states:

2335 Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way. The union of man and woman in marriage is a way of imitating in the flesh the Creator’s generosity and fecundity: “Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh.” All human generations proceed from this union.

The end.

DARN, I missed the ceremony. And I wanted to catch the garter.:doh2: :doh2:

By the way, anyone know where the bridal registry is. Maybe we can chip in and send them some doilies or something.

Only God knows if this is an “abomination” or not.

Homosexual, heterosexual, it is still two people coming together for a lifelong union. The gender does not matter if you look at the relationship by itself. There is no “simulated marriage”, it is a legal marriage with only the term changed (for the time being in VT). There is no “simulated” love with this couple or any other couple. They are committed to the same vows and bonds as everyone else.

I think homosexual relations has been forbidden in the old and new testament and the didache

It’s a sad day for the Episcopal church, when clergy ignore scripture

If the couple refrain from sex, is there anything sinful about a legally sanctioned lifetime commitment between two gay or lesbian people?

But if the couple did engage in sex, wouldn’t the Catholic Church consider this sinful?

Scripture tells us a marriage is between a man and a woman

It is sex within marriage, so it is not sinful. :shrug:

Yes, and God has spoken to us about this through the Bible. It’s an abomination whether you wish to believe so or not. :wink:

It is not a marriage, and yes, it is sinful.

Except it’s not a marriage. You can’t call a union between same genders a marriage anymore than you can call a tail on an animal a leg.

And the prohibition against homosexuality was never lifted, either in Scriptures or Church teachings.

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity.** Under no circumstances can they be approved.**

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm#2353

This would include inside ‘marriage’.

The perverting of Marriage by the Secular Relativist must be stopped. They are using it to rationalize their sinful behavior and to try to weaken God’s law. :mad:

This took place in New Hampshire.

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