Evangelical leaders stick with Trump, focus on defeating Clinton

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - Leaders of religious conservative groups largely stood behind Donald Trump on Saturday, the day after vulgar sexual comments he made about women surfaced online, but some expressed concern that the U.S. Republican presidential nominee’s remarks could depress evangelical turnout on Election Day.

Most evangelical leaders did not condemn Trump, and instead pointed to an urgent need to prevent Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency, reshaping the Supreme Court and implementing liberal policies.

The latest blow to Trump’s campaign came after a 2005 video surfaced of the then-reality TV star talking on an open microphone about groping women and trying to seduce a married woman. Vice presidential running mate Mike Pence said he could not defend Trump’s words.

Gary Bauer, chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, said Trump’s “grossly inappropriate language” does not change the choice facing the country in the Nov. 8 election and that “I continue to support the Trump-Pence ticket.”

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I’d say catholic priests who hear confessions would take the same stance.

I’m not sure. To offer absolution through the Rite of Penance is one thing; to think that a person is fit for the presidency is another.

Just think, if we ALL voted our displeasure with these repulsive candidates we might end up with someone else all together. Is that any worse than voting for a candidate of your choice when you live in a state that is most likely to go with the opposite party? Neither Trump nor Clinton are suitable.:mad:

Don’t you feel for how far we have fallen? You can hear it in the language of the young. On a comedy reality magic show where the magician perform amazing tricks and videos reactions–almost always the folks, young and old, male and female of all backgrounds and walks of life have to have there “f” bomb bleeped out.

Sadly to say Donald’s conversation probably isn’t much different than most America… Yet, we are so holy we cannot stand it. I hate it. But if my checkered past I too have talked trash. Me, a proud mom and grandma. What, me? A sinner? I hate it!

(Forgive ME Lord, please!)

Of course.

Of course, but priests would know what people are capable of doing, which many of us are not ready to admit.

I don’t understand.

:amen:

I have maintained all along this was the case. I wish it were otherwise. People on both sides say, “well if you stay home on election day that’s a vote for her or him.” Wrong. I don’t and won’t be forced to chose between evil and vile, and that is exactly what we have to choose between. When you go to the grocery store, and all the produce is rotten, you just don’t buy anything.

Maybe if all the Americans who are disgusted by the choices we are being offered stayed home, maybe THAT would be a message too. Maybe the “power brokers” would think twice before spending hundreds of millions on candidates everyone loaths.

I’m not really surprised. I wouldn’t expect them to be put off by misogyny.

A priests hear so many confessions that he knows the human nature better than most. But ordinary people tend to be hypocritical when it comes to judging others.

We have a very crass society it is true. We have zero decorum. That is because we have made everything profane. Nothing is sacred anymore.

There is a recording of a phone call by JFK with him using the ‘f’ word. The difference is this was in a private conversation. We used to have some sense of public decency. Now we are as indecent in public as we are in private. Ideally we’d be working to make our private life more decent. We’ve been going the other way. In that effort Trump isn’t an exception nor the leader.

I agree. Not voting can be the strongest message. All the politicians from both parties would be seriously worried if no one voted. A vote is always and mostly a vote for the system. It is explicit agreement that the system chooses the best leader. It is tacit approval of the winner, even if you don’t vote for that candidate.

There is a quote by Winston Churchill, “Do not hesitate to raise up a flawed man if circumstances require it.” I wonder if these people see that quote as a source of inspiration here.

Yeah, I guess I fall into that category too…except, its missing the point.

It wasn’t the words that were offensive, it was what they were communicating.

I, and I assume, you, may have uttered vulgarities, but I would suspect neither of us turn ourselves into a “kissing magnet” every time we see an attractive woman, or pursued married women for sex, which was the travesty of his words, which are far more than, any “trash talk” of our “checkered past”.

As far as I know American ballot papers do not have an option as is available in some countries where there is a box you can tick to indicate no candidate running is one you feel you could vote for. If they did the results might be quite interesting.

Unfortunately, I truly think that is exactly the case.

I will just hope and pray Trump apologizes and humbles himself so that myself and US citizens can’t see the same Trump that was in that clip.

“For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh

I agree, society is very crass these days, but on the other hand, in the US, its still common for TV networks and FCC to ‘bleep’ out most curse words, the US is pretty much the only country that does not allow ANY type of nudity on network tv, like other countries where some nudity is used in advertising and is permitted on network tv.

Doesnt make sense, we have become so crass and vile today, all kinds of sexual immorality is encouraged and even celebrated, but we still bleep out curse words on tv…??

It is true. We are all sinners, many, including my self have used vulgar language in the past, but as someone pointed out, the idea is to better oneself along the way. I don’t see this as being the way with either candidate.

This is a giant job interview, for the most important position in the land. It is expected, at least I would hope, that we hold the most important position in the world, as many view it, to a higher standard than even ourselves. LBJ had a foul mouth, but he was careful enough not to use this talk publicly. Our society punishes even athletes at times because we know many kids look up to them. We might be able to overlook a little “locker room” talk in private from our leaders, but not out in public, not like this.

Honestly, we shouldn’t even have to make these distinctions. People should be able to reason this out for themselves. Would I hire Trump to run a casino? You bet. Would I hire either of these two people for president? No way. There are many great senators and Governors who have long since been vetted that don’t talk and act this way. Ones who by and large follow national security protocols, and don’t have basement mail servers. I will vote for one of those. They might be boring, they might not have a pocket full of zingers at a debate, but they would make fine Presidents.

We should cast our votes for President the way we cast a vote for a babysitter or a position that carries a high level of importance to us PERSONALLY! I see it as my patriotic duty not to vote at all for this dog food.

already being discussed here
forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=1027477

“Most evangelical leaders did not condemn Trump, and instead pointed to an urgent need to prevent Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency, reshaping the Supreme Court and implementing liberal policies.”

No doubt the entire culture has become more vulgar and crass. That’s why I miss Calvin Coolidge.

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