Wildleafblower asked Phil in message #14, “Phil, I’m deeply concerned and don’t understand why you placed Alec’s pre-publication draft on Wikipedia. Did you ask his permission prior to doing that?”
PhilVaz responded in message #15, " It is only a link to his site. No I didn’t ask his permission, I just linked it. Alec has the article on the front of his site www.EvolutionPages.com
“The good thing about the web is one can make changes anytime when necessary, to fix mistakes, make things clearer, etc. So the web version I assume will be a “work in progress” until Alec perfects it. The link remains the same. Once the article is edited to his satisfaction, that’s when Alec submits it for possible publication. I assume that’s how it works.”
I’d like to respond to the first paragraph of your response to me. You clearly state as a fact that you didn’t ask permission from Alec MacAndrew to link his article entitled Rebuttal of Cardinal Schönborn which is referenced on the homepage of his website found here evolutionpages.com/
to Wikimedia. Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales statement at the bottom of the page of Wikimedia:General disclaimer states, "Please note that the information found here may be in violation of the laws of the country or jurisdiction from where you are viewing this information. Wikipedia does not encourage the violation of any laws, but this information is stored on a server in the State of Florida in the United States of America, and is maintained in reference to the protections afforded to content providers and readers in that jurisdiction. The laws in your country may not recognize a similarly broad protection of free speech; Wikipedia cannot be responsible for potential violations of such laws, should you link to this domain or reuse any of the information contained herein."
The above statement is found on this url:
My response to your second paragraph is pertinant to Alec’s comment in msg. # 1 dated 26th January 2006, “My critique is currently in pre-publication draft mode, ie it is open to comment and further change, so comments are more than welcome…” There isn’t any mention on Alec’s article that it is a draft. It appears to me that Alec published the article* Life: Puppetry or Pageantry? A response to Cardinal Schönborn’s attack on science* as of 28th Jan 2006 found on this url:
Unless he tells me otherwise I would be led to believe I’m correct. If this is the case than he hasn’t given anyone a ‘fair’ amount of time to comment.
Let’s look at the date and time of postings for messages 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13 later. Interesting, Alec posted his msg. #4 at 2:11 a.m. and you posted your msg. # 5 an hour and 16 minutes later (3:27 a.m.) to Wikipedia where you posted his link there? Do you think that he may have followed your link there later?
Phil, as you have stated, “The good thing about the web is one can make changes anytime when necessary, to fix mistakes, make things clearer, etc. So the web version I assume will be a “work in progress” until Alec perfects it. The link remains the same. Once the article is edited to his satisfaction, that’s when Alec submits it for possible publication. I assume that’s how it works.”
Really? You’re telling me by your statement that it’s perfectly ‘ok’ to present to the public misinformation. And, Alec’s website doesn’t provide me with accurate information that I can rely on. Interesting. Alec has on his homepage a disclamer. It states, “I am a trained scientist, but obviously not trained or working in every scientific discipline. There is very little on this website which rests on my own authority. However, where I make claims or statements, they are backed up by **references ** to the primary literature. Most creationist arguments can be refuted by any trained scientist who is prepared to undertake some literature research.” Well, I’d like to see Alec’s references as I asked for in his article as he mentions in msg. #4 and I have requested in my msg. #6. However, he has presented a disclaimer that is highlighted in purple on his homepage! :mad: :rolleyes:
BAD boy :mad: Alec, I’m patiently waiting on you, oh serious one!