Boymama: It’s interesting you should bring this up! I’ve been thinking about it a lot lately…I myself was brought up with a more creationist perspective (I was homeschooled ;). I’ve finished school now, but still continued to believe in the creationist theory, to me it answers questions rather than giving rather time consuming theories into the possibilities of all sorts of things happening! Well, my closest friends went through school and were taught evolution was the go. So we’ve been arguing about it of late and it is just getting me confused…however, as much as they have theories none of them seem convincing enough to me. So I spoke to a local apologist about it.
Firstly, he agreed, there doesn’t appear to be enough evidence for the evolution theory to make it one that you would want to commit to.
Secondly, (upon asking him about the Church’s teaching - Benedict XVI coming out and saying it was ok to believe in) he said that the popes statement wasn’t a definite agreement nor disagreement of the theory of evolution, for one it wasn’t clear what context it was given in. The pope could have been speaking about micro evolution (where changes are made within species - which happens with every reproduction on earth!) or macro evolution (the changing from one species to another). On this note I do not have the popes exact quote, but it appears that his statement wasn’t necessarily in agreement with evolution though may have appeared to be.
Thirdly, he said that he did his own research and looked at the apparition at Lourdes. The apparition occurred in 1858. And in 1859 Darwin presented his publication the origin of species, so beginning the major evolution revolution.
In the apparition at Lourdes Our Lady said, “I am the Immaculate Conception”. Four years previous Pius IX had proclaimed the Immaculate Conception of Mary as dogma. So Our Lady came and confirmed this in her apparition.
Now, for evolution to be real Adam and Eve would have had to have been born. Being the first humans to be born they could not have been born with original sin - for it is said that they themselves committed the first sin (original sin). “The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents” (CCC 390). So as Catholics we cannot deny that our first parents committed original sin. At the same time we cannot deny a dogma of the Church - Mary being Immaculately conceived, which she herself confirms, “I AM the Immaculate Conception”. This statement of Mary’s is one that says she alone was immaculately conceived, for she IS the immaculate conception.
We could then conclude that Adam and Eve either could not have been conceived immaculately or were not conceived at all. Because as Catholics we believe in the original sin of our first parents the first conclusion cannot be valid - for they could not commit sin before conception. Hence, it seemingly follows that they were not conceived at all - being created by God as adult beings.
It also seems that Our Lady appeared with the perfect message, just before evolution became massive!
Wellll, that’s a lot to digest but it’s what I am most convinced of…I’m still looking into things and trying to get the argument perfected - also it can only really convince a Catholic - so got to work on a convincing argument for someone from a purely scientific viewpoint
If I have got any facts wrong please let me know - it is only the thought of this apologist, it seems valid enough, but yea if it’s not correct I’d rather be corrected!!
Any thoughts on the above would be appreciated! & hope it helps