Exactly who is the Anti Christ?


#1

The following is not mine but I think the original author makes good points!

Thoughts!


Many books have been written on the subject and there has been much speculation of just who this mysterious person is. Some say he was born in the 1950’s and is living among us somewhere, soon to be revealed. How could this be true in light of what Saint John said in his time, that antichrist was “already in the world”, 1John 4:3?

ANTI-

  1. A person who is opposed to something.
  2. Opposite, opposing, against, counteracting, or neutralizing.

So we either have a person who opposes Christ, or someone or something that fulfills definition # 2, an entity which is opposed to, or is against Christ.

How many falsely accuse the Pope as being AntiChrist?

Did you know that Holy Scripture is very precise in revealing just WHO Antichrist really is?

1.“Dear children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have risen; hereby we know it is the last hour.” 1John 2:18

2.“Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is the antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.” 1John 2:22

3.“And every spirit that severs Jesus, is not of GOD, but is of **antichrist **of whom you have heard that he is coming, and now is already in the world.” 1John 4:3.

4.“For many deceivers have gone forth into the world who do not confess Jesus as the Christ coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the** antichrist**.” 2John 1:7.

There you have it.** Antichrist** is mentioned only four times in Scripture and only in two Epistles of Saint John. Antichrist is not mentioned at all in the book of Revelation, as some seem to believe.

In those four verses Saint John tells us not only who Antichrist is, but also WHO HE COULD NOT BE.

Elucidation:

  1. At the time of writing of John’s Epistles, many antichrists Already existed, 1John 2:18. Heresies existed from the very beginning and with them were the heretics who lied, deceived, and severed Jesus’ body (his Church). Two of the main heresies in the first century were the Simonians who denied the humanity of
    Christ, and the Cerenthians who denied the divinity of Christ. In the second century more than 14 new heresies sprang up, further severing the Body of Christ. As the centuries wore on, older heresies died out and new ones sprang up to take their place. There have been heresies in every century and some are recycled such as Jehovah’s witnesses who again deny the divinity of
    Christ.

  2. Antichrist is a liar and denies that Jesus is the Christ, and he also denies the Father and the Son, 1John 2:22. Yes, as I have pointed out in the first item, there was the denial of Jesus in His divinity, and in His humanity. Over the centuries, there were some
    denials of both by a single heresy.

  3. Antichrist is the one who severs Jesus, 1John 4:3.(the Church is the body of Christ which gets severed) As previously discussed, but the severance of Jesus today is worse than ever, as we shall see shortly.

  4. Antichrist is a deceiver who denies that Jesus is the Christ and has come in the flesh, 2John 1:7

It is happening today in a big way.?

In summary: There are many antichrists, even in the time of Saint John, and they are liars, and deny that Jesus is the Christ. They sever Him. ( Sever means to tear apart) They deceive and deny that He came in the flesh. There is another word which fits all of these parameters perfectly. It is the Heretic the fomenter of Heresy.

Continued on next post


#2

Conclusions:

  1. Antichrist could not possibly be the Pope since he meets none of the qualifications. The Pope has never denied that Jesus is the Christ, has never denied the Father and Son, and he has never severed Jesus.

For those of you who say the Pope is antichrist, the onus is upon you to** prove what you charge**, and you must provide genuine historical documents to back up what you say.

Therefore, just who CANNOT be antichrist as shown by Holy Scripture?

  1. Now, anyone who calls Jesus Christ a liar, has denied Him, 1John 5:10. Anyone who does not believe what He said, therefore, denies Him, as they have called Him a liar. What He said is recorded in Holy Scripture as we all know. Take a look Here and you will see many verses in Scripture which are denied by non-Catholics today. The statistical evidence is there; it cannot
    be denied. Therefore, you tell me, Just Who Is Antichrist?

  2. Now who severs Jesus? He commanded that there be one fold and one shepherd in John 10:16. How many deny these words of His and sever His Body into ever smaller pieces? In 1981 there were about 20,780 splits in the Body of Christ among non-Catholics. Today there are over 33,800 non-Catholic ecclesial communities, as documented in the World Christian Encyclopedia, April 2001 edition. That is an increase of 65% in the severing of the body of Christ in just 20 years. That works out to a rate of over 125% increase every 40 years at the present rate of splitting. Here are the very words of Jesus, “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.” Matthew 12:30 What could Jesus have said to be more clear than what He said here? The severing of His body tens of thousands of times is certainly not “gathering” is it? So He says to “gather”, but non-Catholics are scattering by their incessant creation of yet more and more splits of His Body. It is all too obvious that scattering is “against me” as He said, and being against Christ
    is the purest definition of Antichrist. “Has Christ been divided up?” 1Corinthians 1:13. Yes, drastically, and the evidence is overwhelming that it is divided by Protestantism, and not by the Papacy or the Catholic Church. Therefore, you tell me, just Who Is doing the severing? It is Protestantism with its never ending creation of new sects, severing Jesus into ever more
    and ever smaller pieces.

The answer is so obvious as to just who is clearly the Antichrist.

  1. Now just who is the deceiver and the denier of Jesus come in the flesh? The deceiver is anyone who does not speak the truth, just as Satan deceived Eve in Genesis 3:5. The denier, as I have already shown, are those who do not believe the words of Jesus Christ.

A Final Note:
According to what Holy Scripture has clearly told us, Just Who Is
Antichrist?


#3

Interesting, but I don’t know that Protestantism is really the anti-Christ. As a Catholic, I certainly know that the anti-Christ isn’t our Church or our Pope. I think the original author proved his/her case against the anti-Christ being the Church, but I don’t agree with the author’s suggestion that the anti-Christ is the Protestant denominations.


#4

George Soros?


#5

[quote=Trelow]George Soros?
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You give him too much credit.http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon11.gif


#6

[quote=vern humphrey]You give him too much credit.http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
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Well he is campaining pretty hard for the position.


#7

My impression is that the author intends that the Antichrist is the spirit that severs, not Protestants in general, if that makes any sense…

God bless


#8

[quote=Trelow]Well he is campaining pretty hard for the position.
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I think Hillary would beat him out in the primaries. http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


#9

All kidding aside, I’d say that the UN has a strong shot for the title.

Soros would be vice-antichirst


#10

[quote=Trelow]All kidding aside, I’d say that the UN has a strong shot for the title.

Soros would be vice-antichirst
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Now you’ve got me thinking – would the Antichrist be pure evil, or pure incompetence? http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


#11

http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage15/3.gifI heard it was sponge Bob:ehh: No wait a minute spongebob is suppose to be gay:eek:


#12

[quote=Lisa4Catholics]http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage15/3.gifI heard it was sponge Bob:ehh: No wait a minute spongebob is suppose to be gay:eek:
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I can introduce you to people who believe it’s WalMart.

When I was running for Congress, I met a lady who was convinced. She ran a store and said (and I quote), "People would rather go to WalMart and buy a shirt for $2 than buy the same shirt from me for $28!"http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


#13

[quote=vern humphrey]I can introduce you to people who believe it’s WalMart.

When I was running for Congress, I met a lady who was convinced. She ran a store and said (and I quote), "People would rather go to WalMart and buy a shirt for $2 than buy the same shirt from me for $28!"http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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I rember you telling that story, thats classic.

Whod ever thunk it?


#14

[quote=Trelow]I rember you telling that story, thats classic.

Whod ever thunk it?
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Whoda thunk it indeed – there ARE people in this country who believe you can command the economy. Apparently they were asleep when the Soviet Union collapsed.http://forums.catholic.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


#15

[quote=Trelow]I rember you telling that story, thats classic.

Whod ever thunk it?
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#16

[quote=auhsoj88]My impression is that the author intends that the Antichrist is the spirit that severs, not Protestants in general, if that makes any sense…

God bless
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There is one thing that is by far the worst condition,the tendency to mediocrity in never questioning things that are absurd,wrong or evil for the sake of convenience.The spirit of evil grants all anti-Christians the free will to use our sacred Christian writings as though they were less than sacred.

"9 "To the angel of the church in Laodicea, 10 write this: " 'The Amen, the faithful and true witness, the source of God’s creation, says this:I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. 11 I wish you were either cold or hot. "usccb.org/nab/bible/revelation/revelation3.htm

As it is my custom.

234 + 432 = 666

432/2 = 216 = 666

432/3 = 144

Here is a bigger clue for one who has wisdom.


#17

[quote=oriel36]There is one thing that is by far the worst condition,the tendency to mediocrity in never questioning things that are absurd,wrong or evil for the sake of convenience.The spirit of evil grants all anti-Christians the free will to use our sacred Christian writings as though they were less than sacred.

"9 "To the angel of the church in Laodicea, 10 write this: " 'The Amen, the faithful and true witness, the source of God’s creation, says this:I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. 11 I wish you were either cold or hot. "usccb.org/nab/bible/revelation/revelation3.htm

As it is my custom.

234 + 432 = 666

432/2 = 216 = 666

432/3 = 144

Here is a bigger clue for one who has wisdom.
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What??? Cryptic as ever.

Peace


#18

Ah yes, all the formulas used. What about D-day being the day of anti-christ? How, here we go: June 6th = 6th month 6th day.1944= 1+9 +4+4 =18. Now 6 goes into 18 three times, 666.No good? Years ago I was told it was Ronald Wilson Reagan= first name 6 letters middle name 6 letters last name 6 letters.It goes on and on.


#19

[quote=SCTA-1]Ah yes, all the formulas used. What about D-day being the day of anti-christ? How, here we go: June 6th = 6th month 6th day.1944= 1+9 +4+4 =18. Now 6 goes into 18 three times, 666.No good? Years ago I was told it was Ronald Wilson Reagan= first name 6 letters middle name 6 letters last name 6 letters.It goes on and on.
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When you guys get done with numerology, are you going to break out the Ouija board?


#20

I have seen folks here on the forum (Catholics) mention Nero as the most likely candidate given the evidences. I believe there are possibly two paths presented in the Scriptures. There is THE ANTICHRIST and there are the anti-christs. The anti-christs would be those who generally deny Christ and live out their lives in such a way and then there is THE ANTICHRIST spoken of along with the beast and false prophet. Just some thoughts to consider.

I don’t believe it is a future person. I rather see the evidences as the preterists do in that all those prophecies have already been fulfilled. But then, I could always be wrong.

Peace…


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