Exclusive: Democratic senators to file amicus brief in Hobby Lobby birth control case


#1

In a brief to be filed with the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday, 19 Democratic senators are siding with the Obama administration against evangelical Christian businessmen who argue that paying for their employees’ birth control, a requirement under Obamacare, violates their company’s religious freedom.
news.yahoo.com/democratic-senators-to-file-amicus-brief-in-hobby-lobby-birth-control-case-025129006.html


#2

huh?? So its not just the Catholic Church that is against it?? :eek:


#3

The Democrat party has become the promoter of evil. The stranglehold the anti-life movement has on this party is chilling. Remember how Senators (DEMOCRAT) were raising a rukus over a private charity (Susan G Komen) that attempted to withdraw an insignficant level of support for Planned Parenthood because PP does not provide mammogram or other services related to breast cancer?

What is the mindset of some so evil that they will always get in line with Satan’s agenda of destruction?


#4

5 of the 19 are Catholics.


#5

No, 5 of them call themselves Catholics but are they actually practicing their faith? They need more practice :wink: I think!

Honestly along with Pope Francis and maybe Cardinal Dolan think of the prominent (by self declaration) Catholics: Joe Biden, Kathleen Sebelius, Andrew Cuomo, Nancy Pelosi… abortion supporters to the nth degree. No wonder the public is confused about what Catholics believe and how they are supposed to respond to issues like abortion, gay “marriage.” euthanasia…

Lisa


#6

Which ones?


#7

The other senators who signed the brief are: Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Benjamin Cardin (D-Md.), Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Tim Johnson (D-SD), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Ed Markey (D-Mass.), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Barbara Mikulsi (D-Md.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.), Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

Figure out which ones are “catholic”…Just as I thought…Feinstein and Boxer are on it…but I don’t know if they are “catholic”.


#8

Cruz Files Amicus Brief on Behalf of Senators Defending Religious Liberty from Obamacare Contraception Mandate

Bi-Partisan Legislators, Religious Leaders, Legal Scholars and States File Support in Supreme Court for Hobby Lobby


#9

LOVE Ted Cruz, the Left demonizes him because he scares them to death. Alan Dershowitz said he was the smartest student he ever taught. He is fearless, he is Hispanic. Our deadly weapon :smiley:

I am delighted to see this response to the bullying of the aborto-lobby

Lisa


#10

Maria Cantwell, Dick Durbin, Tom Harkin, Pat Leahy, Ed Markey, Robert Menendez, Barbara Mikulsi all supposedly identify as Catholics. I say supposedly not to denigrate their beliefs, but because my source was the questionably reliable Wikipedia.


#11

U.S. Bishops File Amicus Curiae Brief Supporting Hobby Lobby And Conestoga Wood Specialties In Supreme Court Cases Challenging HHS Mandate


#12

So…34.5% of Senate Democrats file the brief and it’s representative of the Democratic Party? They couldn’t even get a majority of their own members to sign it, and you’re using it against them?

washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/18/National-Politics/Polling/question_10009.xml?uuid=qPNlgI_1EeKRc3-Hzac7SQ

According to the above, 34% of Republicans (almost the exact same %) nationwide support legalization of SS’M.’ Does that mean I can start railing against how Republicans all supposedly think SS’M’ is wonderful? Come on now.

In fact, when Pres. Obama first introduced the HHS mandate, some of his biggest backlash was actually from congressional Democrats.

That said, the 19 Democrats who DID sign this are committing grave evil. We should pray for them :(.


#13

You are comparing apples and oranges. That 34% of Senate Democrats signed this and that 34% of Republicans…you mean just people wandering about or are these Congressmen…agree with same sex “marriage” isn’t particularly relevant.

The point is that the Democratic PARTY,the PLATFORM and the voting record of Democrats is close to if not 100% aligned with Planned Parenthood. They want the HHS Mandate, they want abortion with tax dollars (not Harry Reid refusing to bring up the just passed House bill on preventing tax dollars to pay for abortions under Obamacare). The few pro life Democrats left in the party couldn’t fill a table at Starbucks.

If you claim Democratic party affiliation, your PARTY is 100% pro abortion. You may not be and somewhere out there is some poor Democrat politician hoping he can emerge from a secret location where he’s hidden for the past decade. But you can’t get the stink off that party with respect to abortion activism. It’s sick and it’s evil. I don’t know why any practicing devout Catholic think they can vote for Democrats in a national election. You are right, pray for them.
Lisa


#14

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


#15

I agree Lisa…


#16

I did just read that the number of Amicus briefs filed ON BEHALF of Hobby Lobby far outweighs those against them. I think even if people do not agree with their religious viewpoint, they don’t want a private business being forced to compromise religious freedom.

It just amazes me that obtaining birth control is neither difficult nor is it an expensive product. The idea that ANY policy or business MUST offer a cheap and available product that is not necessary to treat an illness or even to preserve one’s health completely baffles me. For some reason the Democrat party has just marched in lockstep with the whole anti-birth meme of Planned Parenthood. When they got involved in the Susan B Koman debacle, it really demonstrated how far they are in the tank for Planned Parenthood. It’s positively macabre!

Lisa


#17

Thats a good question!


#18

All right… I don’t know why I bother sometimes, but I really don’t see this point addressed much, so here goes:

First, we have to forget the rather strange idea that the Democratic party wrote this bill. Lobbyists for the health care industry wrote it. Period. That’s why they had to “pass it to know what was in it.” They didn’t write it or, apparently, read it. Lobbyists wrote it, and they cobbled it together, protecting industry profits at every step.

Now, remember how insurance companies make money: they take in more in premiums than they pay out in claims.

So why are birth control, abortion, and all the rest covered? Because the insurance industry wants it that way. Birth control is cheap, pregnancy is expensive. Abortion is cheap, pregnancy is expensive. Sterilization is often not as cheap at first, but the payoff (for the company) is the best over the long term.

Keep in mind too that the end result of that pregnancy would be a child; a child that would then “consume” even more health care and, in most cases, as long as the family was already paying for a family premium, would generate no added income on the premiums.

Also, I find the notion that we are “being forced to pay for” all these things strange, since this is already the case, and has been. Consider: I worked for the Archdiocese of Boston for several years, during which time we had excellent health insurance, which did, in fact, exclude anything contrary to Catholic teaching.

Here’s the thing: we received no discounts for this. It’s not a menu from which you choose, and pay for, only certain procedures. Want a policy that covers all these things? Fine. That will be X dollars. What? You want to exclude these things? Fine. That will still be X dollars. Follow?

We could have lowered our premiums by, for instance, adding a deductible or higher co-pays. I’m sure if we had excluded something that would have otherwise cost the company money, we might also have received a discount. Not for excluding ABC and the rest though. Why? Abortion saves the company money, childbirth doesn’t.


#19

So are the 60 Democrat senators who voted for it irresponsible or stupid? Or maybe a little bit of both? And what about the President who campaigned on it, pushed it, and promoted it?


#20

Irresponsible and stupid? Well, I would say they are bought and paid for, and are serving their corporate masters well.

And people think this bill is socialism? It’s corporate welfare. Unless, of course, we believe that the way to ruin the insurance companies is to guarantee them millions of new customers and billions of dollars.

Sure. I hate you so much I’m giving you a promotion… and a raise. Gee, I hope someone wants to ruin me too. :smiley:

There are a few tokens in there, like the part where coverage can’t be denied due to a pre-existing condition, but that could have been done without the billions of dollars, too. Probably *should *have been done that way: nope… you can’t do that anymore. Sorry.


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