F.A.O Latin Speakers

For those who can speak and understand Latin

I have downloaded a free basic Latin language course and I am starting with basic words; now when the narrator pronounces a word the V sounds as we would say W, for instance for fox (vulpes) sounds like wulpes and cow (vacca) sounds like wacca and even in the middle of a word like bird (avis) sound like awes.

In Latin is V pronounced as W? I know vorbiscum is pronounced as a V, but the narrator sound like she is saying W.

For those interested the link is byki.com/free_lang_software.pl and choose the Latin option. And listen to see whether she is saying w or not.

Thank’s

That is the restored Classical pronunciation. You won’t be hearing any soft C’s either, “et ketera, et ketera”.

Ecclesiastical pronunciation is Italianate (though I’m told there were regional differences even there).

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That’s how I was taught latin (classical)- V’s are pronounced as W’s. Depends who’s leading some things at church as for pronounciation- I’ve herad some truely horribly prounounced stuff! lol

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[quote=tee_eff_em]That is the restored Classical pronunciation. You won’t be hearing any soft C’s either, “et ketera, et ketera”.

Ecclesiastical pronunciation is Italianate (though I’m told there were regional differences even there).

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So the Latin that they would say at the Tridentine Mass would be pronounced different from the classical and more in line with the Italian pronunciation?

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[quote=sententia]That’s how I was taught latin (classical)- V’s are pronounced as W’s. Depends who’s leading some things at church as for pronounciation- I’ve herad some truely horribly prounounced stuff! lol
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I am glad it was not my hearing, is there any exeptions where the V would actually sound like a V and would the classical pronunciation say worbiscum instead of vorbiscum.

Thank’s

[quote=Pious]So the Latin that they would say at the Tridentine Mass would be pronounced different from the classical and more in line with the Italian pronunciation?
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Yes.

[quote=Pious]I am glad it was not my hearing, is there any exeptions where the V would actually sound like a V and would the classical pronunciation say worbiscum instead of vorbiscum.

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No exceptions I am aware of. “Vobiscum” would be pronounced “wobiscum”.

Here is an earlier thread on [thread=32708]Latin pronunciation[/thread]

tee

From what I remember from my high school Latin classes, there are 2 forms of Latin-- one considered “high” Latin, and one considered “low” Latin. High Latin always uses the W sound where a V is written, and the hard C (the K sound) where the letter C is written. (e.g. Caesar is pronounced Kai’-sar, and Vobiscum is pronounced Wo-bis’-cum). My teacher insisted we always speak in high Latin, so to hear words pronounced any other way grates on my ears.

[quote=tee_eff_em]Yes.

No exceptions I am aware of. “Vobiscum” would be pronounced “wobiscum”.

Here is an earlier thread on [thread=32708]Latin pronunciation[/thread]

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Thank you; would the Church / Vattican allow a Priest or a lay person for that matter to use ‘Classical Latin’ in a Mass setting or would they insist on using ‘Ecclesiastical Latin’

I always use the classical pronunciation. “crucifixion” really sounds strange

Iay on’tday nowkay boutaay ouyay…utbay iay lwaysay asay… obiscumway…Via = wia… the was I learned it about 48 years ago…:whistle:

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