Fantasy Role-Playing Games

Is it ok for Catholics to play online role-playing games like Everquest or Dark Age of Camelot?

Tolkien created a fantasy world (full of wizards and magic) to tell a story and I see playing these games as an extension of that.

What do you think?

Yes! My husband plays them all the time and the only thing anti about them is they are anti-Annunciata:crying:

Yes, with the proviso that the person playing these games is not neglecting his/her duties to God and family.

I really have not met someone as of yet who was just “mildly” into these type of games.

Hi guys. My two kids and I play D&D. However we make it Catholic. So such Jesus is the only true God. Thas has led to some unforseen things to happen in the game. Or at lest things that would have never happend whin I played the game in HS.

One time the local towns “public” cematary was having its graves robed. < spelling? > Well to make a long story shorter. In the “big” confertation with the bad necramanser at the end my kids tore into him. No not with swords or spells but verbaly. :eek:
I was spechless as my kids told the necramanser he was walking away from God by doing horrable things and needed to get to confestion. Never in a thousand years did I expect that. In the end thay got the necramanser to repent and follow them back to church. Wow. I never saw that before in a game. :slight_smile:

Nothing wrong with them per se, but there are definitely a couple of things to be careful about.

The first was hinted at by a previous poster: these types of games are designed to be “immersive” and time-consuming. Real success in the game can only be achieved by playing regularly and investing lots of time (by design), and most people like success, so they end up sinking hundreds of hours into playing. I firmly believe they can be psychologically addictive as well.

Another problem, which is much more subtle, is that fantasy role-playing can open people up to a dark side of the spiritual realm. While pretending to weild magic and conjure powerful spirits and demons can be benign, fascination with the idea can lead to a desire for a similar power in real life, and pushes some to seek that power by dabbling in the occult. Greater awareness of spiritual power can make one more open to spiritual suggestion and warfare from the Enemy, especially when one’s time is being diverted from holy things by intensely playing a game.

Finally, role-playing is all about imagination; pretending to be someone else–the hero, who can do amazing things. Unfortunatly, some turn their superheroes into super villians, and play characters of evil intent and action in their games. While things like this can be benign in a well-grounded person, repeated fantasizing of evil performed on others, even in a game, can perpetuate an attitude accepting of violence and bereft of God and love. Children especially must be watched that they do not repeatedly act out evil aggression in fantasy. Playing the hero is fine, and can even be good; playing an evil, demon-conjuring murderer is not.

I’ve seen all sides in people, so this is not just fear-biased ranting, but real things to watch out for. But games are games, and can be played with good intent and bad. Just be careful of the pitfalls.

Peace,
javelin

Roleplaying is neutral. By itself it is neither good nor evil, but can be used for either.

As with almost anything, roleplaying is sinful if used to neglect your obligations.

Roleplaying can be a good tool for developing social, creative, and leadership skills as well as a way to relax from the pressures of life.

My husband plays. I think it’s a social thing for him. I don’t see anything wrong with it. He has fun and hangs out with the “boys”.
This link is to a Mystery Science theater spoof of Jack Chick’s anti-DnD tract. It’s Hilarious! My husband got a great laugh out of it. :smiley:

humpin.org/mst3kdd/

I voted “Yes”, although I think it depends on the person.

My husband and a group of friends used to play D&D in high school and college. He credits that with keeping them off of drugs and alcohol (he grew up in a small rural town where there wasn’t much for teenagers to do, and he knew a number of kids on hard drugs). Now he likes to occasionally play computer games, online or off. He usually chooses the games that will be easy for him to play for a half-hour or so and then shut off. He enjoys it, it keeps him from watching my “chick-flicks” and making snarky comments, and it doesn’t take away from our time together. It’s also useful for him to blow off steam- if he’s had a rough day, he’ll take it out on the game opponents rather than on me.

On the other hand, we have a good friend who was wrapped up in Everquest to the exclusion of a social life. He is now approaching 30, lives with mom and dad, and has only recently acknowledged that always shutting himself up with Everquest might not be healthy. I’m sure that his acknowledgement was supported by the fact that one of his Everquest buddies almost lost his marriage due to online gaming addiction.

Yeah, Everquest, or rather Evercrack, is highly addictive, as is Dark Age of Camelot. You have to be careful. I was a beta tester for the Sims Online and when they came out with the full version, I decided to not buy it, even though I really enjoyed the game, because it takes so much time.

Face-to-face roleplaying games like D&D I think are much safer. They involve real social interaction, not just you and a computer. Since everyone who plays has to get together at one time, there’s less opportunity for it to be a time hog. You just have to be careful not to spend too much money on stuff, or too much time between games reading the books and things. It can also provide a great opportunity to discuss the ramifications of moral actions and good vs. evil.

The previous posts here about the neutrality of role-playing, I think, are right on the money. It all depends on who is playing, and how it’s played.

I found this site on the web for the Christian Gamers Guild.

geocities.com/christian_gamers_guild/

I haven’t looked at everything on their site but I like the idea.

Hope they can make this work.

Welp you just have :wink:

I used to play NeverWinterNights, until I got bored…great one player too. Some Buldar’s Gate II. Haven’t played in years tho.

[quote=renee1258]I really have not met someone as of yet who was just “mildly” into these type of games.
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[quote=Jeffrey]Welp you just have :wink:

I used to play NeverWinterNights, until I got bored…great one player too. Some Buldar’s Gate II. Haven’t played in years tho.
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Hi Jeff,
I can 2nd your welp…my husband has played these games as well…He actively plays Asheron’s Call and is gearing up to* Middle Earth on-line*!
I just sit here on my laptop and post away!:whistle: Togetherness!:wink: Hey at least he’s home! Annunciata:D

[quote=renee1258]I really have not met someone as of yet who was just “mildly” into these type of games.
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Make me the third mildly-into-these-type-of-games person you’ve met. I play D&D about twice a month (Saturday Man Day). I play a superhero RPG about twice month (Friday Game Night). I’m also a published freelance RPG author who uses the income from writing assignments to help keep my kids in Catholic school.

I haven’t touched EverQuest since my good friend Fred died two summers ago. Once I couldn’t play with Fred, the game lost its point.

– Mark L. Chance.

Yea…Fable is comming out for Xbox(September)…supposed to be the new standard of RPG’s…no multi tho.

[quote=Annunciata]Hi Jeff,
I can 2nd your welp…my husband has played these games as well…He actively plays Asheron’s Call and is gearing up to* Middle Earth on-line*!
I just sit here on my laptop and post away!:whistle: Togetherness!:wink: Hey at least he’s home! Annunciata:D
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[quote=javelin]…these types of games are designed to be “immersive” and time-consuming…I firmly believe they can be psychologically addictive as well.
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Wow, you just described the nature of sepnding time on these forums. :rotfl:

Seriously though, I have no problem with roll-playing adventure games…as long as you’re a well-grounded individual that won’t get sucked into the realm of fantasy and can easily distinguish the real with the un-real - I mean that from a theolgical aspect as well.

I love Neverwinter Nights!
And I don’t mind playing the totally insane Cyric-worshipping villain. 'Cause I’m not one. :stuck_out_tongue:

Time-consuming? Sure it is, just like playing on a local sports team.

I love the games, great for the imagination and you can be something totally different than yourself. ( Not that you’d want to be in actual life. )
I can see, however, that some people with certain disabilities could easily mistake fact for fiction, but the truth is most people wouldn’t.

I don’t know if this is considered role-playing, but I’m a huge Sims fan. I bought all the expansion packs, and would regularly down-load extra items for the game from on-line fan sites. Yesterday, I went out and bought Sims 2. This seems to be my only “vice”, and it’s not so bad, as vices go anyway. I do limit myself how much time I spend on it, though, which isn’t a lot anyway-since I’m married with three children and they take up most of my time. The game’s a lot of fun, and there’s no real ending to it, it just keeps going and going.

Scout :tiphat:

As others have said, it is fine as long as you aren’t neglecting your other duties or putting it before God.

I personally play Star Wars Galaxies. I play twice a week at scheduled times because at one point I was addicted and trying to play during every free moment. I try to be a nice character.

Also another factor no one has brought up that can be devastating is the sexual role-playing. I stay completely away from that, but I’ve heard of marriages breaking apart because of it.

~ Lisa

My brothers and I played D&D throughout most of High School and college, along with some war gaming ( Civil War and WWII armored)

Like most things, it’s morally neutral. It’s how you use it.

We always viewed D&D as our little assault on evil. We didn’t play evil characters and had no desire to. As St. Paul put it

“He beareth not the sword in vain: for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil”; (Rm. 13:4)

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