[quote=John_19_59]Fr. Gruner is a disobedient priest.
I’m not sure about that. I am sure he has been the victim of a modernist campaign from within the Vatican to shut him up about Fatima. Fatima apparantly doesn’t fit the new compromise based orientation of the Church to the world, so it has to be discarded.
Oh. Now it is the Modernists, lurking in the corridors of the Vatican. Are they the ones in secret, clandestine meetings with the Masons, and the Illuminati, and the Coummunist subversives who have taken over the seminaries? Oh, and I forgot the New World Order gang…
[quote=John_19_59]He is faithful to Catholic Dogma
Right. He is faithful to whatever dogma he decided is valid, but not the dogma that gives the authority to the Pope, and which he has selectively decided not to obey. Next, we will hear that he “follows his conscience”, the same claim that the extreme liberals trot out each time they choose to be disobedient to Rome. They both are so far out around the corner, they are going to meet in back.
[quote=John_19_59]Cardinal Ratzinger in 1984 in an interview for Jesus magazine said he had read the third secret and it concerned a crisis of faith and the “last times”. In 2000 he changed his tune and said the secret was fulfilled in 1981. That is bizarre - he was either lying then or now. Something is not right.
It is only bizzare to those whose thinking, in itself is a bit bizarre. He could easily be talking about specific parts of the contents of the letter at each time. One does not have to lie to talk about a subject from one aspect one time, and another aspect another time, when the subject has more than one part.
The folks who get themselves all wrapped up in conspiracy theories are generally those who are not wrapped up too tightly to begin with. the purpose of Fatima is to lead us to Christ. If it is distracting us or sidelining us down conspiracy alleys, we are not paying attention to the message.
the prophecy of Fatima, like almost all prophecies, is in vague as opposed to explicit terms, and capable of more than one absolute definition. It is not magic, faith is not magic, and we need to make darned sure we are not giving it more credence than we give the Bible and the tteaching authority of the Church. Gruner thought he had the iniside track and everyone was ignoring the Truth of the Fatima Secret. We are not even required to believe it; it is approved by the Church as private revelation that is to draw us closer to Christ. But in the scale of divinely revealed truth, it is inconsequential. Not of no merit, but inconsequential. If one never heard of it, one could still be the most saintly of persons on earth.