Former Popes John Paul II and John XXIII to be canonized [CNA]

No, that is not a typo. I know that JPII the Great has had a second miracle approved, but so has Blessed John XXIII (an OFS, BTW). Both could be canonized within the year.

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Blessed Pope John XXIII pray for us. :slight_smile:

Blessed Pope John Paul II pray for us. :slight_smile:

Apparently so. Two people were canonized last year. Is there are rule about the number of people that may be canonized in one year? A limit on the number of popes that can be canonized?

Besides Pope St. Pius X (canonized in 1954), we have to go all the way back to 1712 to the canonization of Pope St. Pius V for a pope to be canonized. This is a big deal. We are priveledged to be witnesses to it. This does not happen very often…

Actually, IIRC, there were at least 4-6 others that were canonized with St. Kateri Tekakwitha and St. Marianne Cope. This year, Pope Francis already canonized over a hundred martyrs who were killed by the Ottoman Turks invading Sicily.

Is there are rule about the number of people that may be canonized in one year? A limit on the number of popes that can be canonized?

I don’t think so, because, especially with martyrs, hundreds are often canonized at once - and then listed as St. So-and-so and companions, because we often only remember the names of one or two of a group of martyrs. As for popes, it is rare to see more than one pope being canonized at a time, but that’s because there can be only one pope at a time. We’ve only had about 266-267 popes in total (I can’t remember the exact number), and, I’d say about 1/4 (or more) have been canonized.

Besides Pope St. Pius X (canonized in 1954), we have to go all the way back to 1712 to the canonization of Pope St. Pius V for a pope to be canonized. This is a big deal. We are priveledged to be witnesses to it. This does not happen very often…

Yes, we are very priviledged to be witnesses to two popes being candidates for canonization at the same time. But remember, the most important thing is - are WE living our lives trying to become future saints?

Brilliant point!:thumbsup:

That would be awesome.

cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/europe/vatican-pope-sainthood/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

Pope John Paul the Great, pray for us!

This is great news! I am so excited. Hopefully a Doctor of the Church declaration follows!

This makes me very happy

Vatican City, Jul 5, 2013 / 07:38 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Francis has approved the cause for canonization of two previous Popes, Blessed John Paul II and Blessed John XXIII.

The announcement was made on July 5, the same day as Pope Francis’ first encyclical, “The Light of Faith,” was released.

The previous steps towards Bl. John Paul II’s canonization had been completed in recent months.

In the case of Bl. John XXIII, however, only one miracle has been formally approved by the Vatican. Normally, two miracles must be approved before a person can be canonized.

Although such a decision is unusual, Vatican press office director Fr. Federico Lombardi, S.J., explained that it is within the authority of the Pope to waive the second miracle for a canonization cause.

Since there was already one approved miracle that allowed Pope John XXIII to be beatified, the canonization will still be valid, even without a second miracle, he explained.

He also referenced talks among theologians about whether separate miracles for beatification and canonization are necessary.

Bl. John XXII is known for his encyclical, “Pacem in Terris,” and for calling the historic Second Vatican Council. The Church is currently celebrating the 50th anniversary of the council during the Year of Faith.

Bl. John Paul II became famous throughout the world during his 27-year papacy for his charismatic nature, his love of youth and his world travels, along with his role in the fall of communism in Europe. The beloved Polish Pope died in 2003, making his 2011 beatification one of the quickest in recent Church history.

Pope Francis is calling for a special Consistory of Cardinals so that the canonization of Bl. John Paul II may be discussed.

The date for the canonizations has not yet been determined and will be discussed during the Consistory, although Fr. Lombardi said he believes they will occur before the end of the year.

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Truly wonderful news and a moment to celebrate!

Pray for us, O Holy (soon to be Saint) John Paul the Second!

Great NEWS!!! :slight_smile:

“…it is within the authority of the Pope to waive the second miracle for a canonization cause.”

Oh, for Heaven’s sake. Then why not bend the rules for anyone who seems particularly pious or devout?

Is it any wonder that people sometimes think that the Church just makes it up as it goes along? Why two miracles? Why one? Why not eleven?

Look, I know it’s the old “whatever you bind on earth (etc)”, but this is treating people like idiots.

No it isn’t treating anyone like idiots. It’s because St. Peter and his successors (all the apostles actually cf. Matthew 18) can bind and loosen. It’s really all it is.

Inspiring news.

A nit to pick in the CNA News article: Pope John Paul II died in April of 2005, not 2003. I recall it clearly as I had just become a new member of the Church two weeks prior.

I agree. They should just do away with the miracle requirements, especially since it’s has not always been historically part of being declared a saint…

Pope Francis can do whatever he wants when it comes to declaring saints. That is the power he received from God with his election.

I think that this is a shrewd political decision on Francis’ part. It seems that one of the themes of his pontificate will be healing the divisions among Catholics. He really sees himself as the referee between liberals and conservatives and regularly points out the silliness in each’s arguments. I hear a lot about Gnostism and Pelgarianism coming out of Francis’ sermons as of late. This will make both sides happy… JPII for the more conservative and JXXIII for the more liberal.

You and I both :thumbsup:

Like I promised in another thread, I’m getting ready to :dancing:

Maybe you mean JPII for the neoconservatives? I’d think the “conservatives” would be happier with St. Pius XII.

I do wonder when that’s going to happen. Oh well, Te Deum anyway.

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