Found! Hidden Ocean Locked Up Deep in Earth's Mantle


#1

livescience.com/46292-hidden-ocean-locked-in-earth-mantle.html

To see if the transition zone really is a deep reservoir for water, researchers conducted experiments on water-rich ringwoodite, analyzed seismic waves travelling through the mantle beneath the United States, and studied numerical models. They discovered that downward-flowing mantle material is melting as it crosses the boundary between the transition zone and the lower mantle layer.

“If we are seeing this melting, then there has to be this water in the transition zone,” said Brandon Schmandt, a seismologist at the University of New Mexico and co-author of the new study published today (June 12) in the journal Science. “The transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of H2O [water] as all the world’s oceans.” (Melting is a way of getting rid of water, which is unstable under conditions in Earth’s lower mantle, the researchers said.)

A water-rich mineral

Ringwoodite is a rare type of mineral that forms from olivine under very high pressures and temperatures, such as those present in the mantle’s transition zone. Laboratory studies have shown that the mineral can contain water, which isn’t present as liquid, ice or vapor; instead, it is trapped in the ringwoodite’s molecular structure as hydroxide ions (bonded oxygen and hydrogen atoms).


#2

Maybe thats where the excess went after the deluge?:shrug:


#3

Lost city of Atlantis? :wink:


#4

Must be dinosaurs there! Journey to the Center of Earth must have been real afterwords! :smiley:


#5

This article is truly interesting. Once again science backs up the bible!:clapping:

In the passage of the bible about Noah, it says it rains for 40 days and 40 nights.
This would not be enough water to flood everything, HOWEVER,
it also says, that the great fountains of the deep opened up
and THEY flooded Everything,

Genesis 7:11

11In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened. 12And rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

ESV Holy Bible


#6

This article is truly interesting. Once again science backs up the bible !:clapping:

In the passage of the bible about Noah, it says it rains for 40 days and 40 nights.
This would not be enough water to flood everything, HOWEVER,
it also says, that the great fountains of the deep opened up
and THEY flooded Everything,

Genesis 7:11

11In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened. 12And rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

ESV Holy Bible


#7

How is this possible? wouldnt the water be boiling hot that deep down in the earth?


#8

As the article notes:

Ringwoodite is a rare type of mineral that forms from olivine under very high pressures and temperatures, such as those present in the mantle’s transition zone. Laboratory studies have shown that the mineral can contain water, which isn’t present as liquid, ice or vapor; instead, it is trapped in the ringwoodite’s molecular structure as hydroxide ions (bonded oxygen and hydrogen atoms).

If it’s not present in a liquid, gaseous or frozen state, then I’m wondering why they’re calling it “water”.


#9

Chemical composition? :shrug:


#10

It is water, it’s just that it is also part of a rock.


#11

Wow. That is amazing! Science is so cool! :cool:


#12

The pressure keeps the water in a liquid state, just like a high pressure boiler.


#13

New feast: Flood Day! Feb 17! Mark your calendars!
:smiley:

Edit: Start of a 40-day period of trials and privation…hmmm…

I know! :idea: “Wet Lent!” :thumbsup:


#14

I’m not so sure it’s accurate to call a molecule that happens to contain a bunch of H and a bunch of OH ions “water.” Perhaps more accurate to say that much of what OTHERWISE might be water is tied up in these subterranean molecules. Of course, I’m just reading it casually and could be misunderstanding…


#15

I think people, including the media, are taking this announcement way too literally. What they discovered was that there are hydrated rocks in the transition zone. If the transition zone contains a large amount of ringwoodite then there could be large pockets of water there depending on the size of the rocks or there could be enough water contained within all of these hydrated rocks to constitute an ocean if combined, but there certainly is not a giant ocean bobbing around in the mantle.


#16

That Pat Boone! He knew it all along! I remember the scenes of that underground ocean (or whatever) depicted here.

http://www.moviestillsdb.com/media/pictures/m/04/04a766d8a3c8e2a9ccc056920f8ac8c4.jpg

Loved that movie by the way. As for the author of the book, Jules Verne, some interesting tidbits.

hollowverse.com/jules-verne/

Jules Verne was born and raised in Nantes, France. He died in 1905 at the age of 77 from complications from diabetes.

***Verne was Catholic, ***as you would expect of a Frenchman, but the degree of his devotion is a matter of debate. It doesn’t help our cause that the writer, at the age of 70, burned all his papers. Nevertheless we have a few anecdotes: when he met with Pope Leo XIII, who was a fan of his writing, rumor has it he was moved to tears by the holy man, plus he described himself as “a believer.” …

… If we are to look to Verne’s literature for clues to his religiosity, it necessarily revolves around two seemingly contradictory worldviews: science and Catholicism. < (My emphasis here) The writer was obviously deeply devoted to science and technology–it is that which defined his life’s work. During his life he saw the world transformed by the industrial revolution, but he kept his sights on the future–even predicting the modern space program with eerily accurate detail.

It seems that he was able, at least for most of his life, to reconcile a scientific worldview with a religious one–even though the extent to which he believed in church dogma, we’ll never know.

It would be funny if Verne was right about this too. Although Greek Mythology and Dante before him depict the river Styx … a subterranean body of water … many years before him.

… And the water that goes to the pump comes from somewhere (below) ! :smiley:


#17

Maybe the inconvenient truth of global warming doesn’t apply INSIDE the globe?

Or maybe ***Dante Alleghiri’s vision of Satan at the Center of the Earth ***in a lake of ice deserves its moment of consideration in the name of open minded science. :wink: :smiley:

Note Lucifer in the ice near the bottom. But inside the Earth. (From “The Inferno” by Dante. Part of his “Divine Comedy”). Pardon the slight diversion and strange interlude. It does allude to waters inside the Earth however … so arguably on topic. :hmmm: :shrug:


#18

The article does say: "“The transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of H2O as all the world’s oceans.”

news.discovery.com/earth/oceans/oceans-of-water-found-locked-deep-inside-earth-140612.htm


#19

These are hydrated rocks so its not in the form of an ocean in the conventional sense of the word.


#20

Water is water, even in the form of a slurry like we cement.


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