They absolutely do. I have not seen anyone on here be condemning of Fr. Corapi. On the other hand, I have seen plenty of people condemn his superiors, and EWTN, without clear evidence of their wrongdoing.
I’m further confused by the claims that Father has ‘been placed on administrative leave,’ then the EWTN statement, which almost makes it sound as though he has been defrocked, and yet others here who state he is still a priest in good standing.
Someone, clear the air regarding this.
And there have been a lot of waspish comments, disguised as ‘support’ for Father and his situation, that are fooling no one.
Don’t we all remember threads like, “Father Corapi claims he bench-pressed four hundred pounds and I know for a fact it was only 399, therefore everything he says is a lie.”
We must assume innocence until proven guilt, or else we are hypocritical beyond belief.
Yes, we should give Fr Corapi the benefit of the doubt while the investigation is undergoing but…
There is no reason to think that Fr. Corapi would lie. He’s a very smart guy who could probably make good money no matter what. He doesn’t need this job.
Condeming his accuser in this manner is no better than those who condemn Fr Corapi in this. You have no right not judge this individual in any way. Shame on you.
What is sad is the amount of people on catholic answers who think it’s justified that EWTN and Fr. Corapi’s superiors assume he’s guilty just in case.
The actions of his superiors and EWTN in no way assume any guilt. They are things in place that happen when an accusation is made and it is under investigation. It is a standard proceedure in the real world that the Church has finally embraced.
"Father Who? Why Corapi Matters
What seemed “The Most Important Story in the Catholic Universe” to some is causing nary a ripple in the lives of other Catholics, but in another sense, it concerns the whole Body of Christ.
Since Saturday, the blogosphere has been crackling with the sensational news that Fr. John Corapi—renowned speaker, televangelist, and a “star” at EWTN—has been placed on “administrative leave.” Corapi’s own website broke the story Friday night with the headline “A Call for Prayer,” explaining that a female former employee had accused him of “everything from drug addiction to multiple sexual exploits”—all allegations that the priest says are false."…
To me this seems like a hold over of OSAS that a protestant convert might carry into Catholicism. Or it is a very bad catechisis.
While we may be in a state of sanctifying grace this does not end our free will or temptation. In such a state one may commit a mortal sin and lose that state.
This is what the Church teaches.
You are reading too much into that sentence. He says that an employee sent a letter, that is correct. No where does he say that is the only accusation or that there is no other evidence against him. Nor does he say what the letter says, it could contain the names of other accusers. We have to wait to see what comes of the investigation, and we need to give the Church officials responsible for handling this the same benefit of the doubt that we give Fr. Corapi.
I agree that even a single person’s accusation must be taken seriously and should be investigated. What irks me is rather that he was placed on a leave and his programs pulled from TV and radio, based on a single person’s accusing letter.
What if someone writes a letter against my new Archbishop (Thomas Wenski), accusing him of sexual involvement with a woman, or embezzlement or something? Will he be automatically placed on an administrative leave based on one person’s accusation, while the Church investigates? I use his example because he recently ruffled some feathers by writing a peace in the Miami Herald, condemning the gay agenda. What if someone mad with him about that article simply fabricates an accusation, out of thin air, just to shut him up? Will the Church automatically shut up my Archbishop, and place him on a leave for the duration of his investigation, based on one person’s accusatory letter?
On top of that, by yanking all his stuff, EWTN and certain Catholic radio networks have (unintentionally, I hope) sent us the message that the charge is credible.
While it was a kick in the stomach to learn of the allegation and Fr. Corapi's administrative leave, after reflection, I realized that I could not possibly know enough to criticize Fr. Corapi, the head of his order nor the former employee who made the allegation. I have to suffer with uncertainty. But I am angry. I am angry with some Catholic broadcast media for this rush to distance themselves from the name and work of Corapi. It recalls for me other shunnings:.
*] Former radio show hosts. I’m thinking of two whose shows I tuned in to for months, until, one day, they were never heard of again – like disinherited siblings whose names we were forbidden to say at table. The silence made the radio-show hosts’ separation seem ominous. Did the station think the listeners wouldn’t notice?
*] Mel Gibson. When the whole anti-Christian, anti-Traditionalist and Materialist world ganged up on him, some in Catholic radio joined the pile-on. The Anti’s had been beating him up since way before his completion of one of the most beautiful, moving and orthodox films ever made about the central belief of Christianity. I wonder if that had any thing to do with his meltdown? At any rate, it seemed like his veneer cracked, whereupon some in Catholic media forgot that God often chooses the unfit for His work. Instead, (it seemed to me) they encouraged us to finish stomping the man to pieces
It we repudiate the gifts God chooses to send us by way of the flawed, we don’t have a Church. (I wonder, how would this play out were Corapi accused of denying Christ?) The only legitimate reason to keep us from Fr. Corapi’s preachings, i believe, would be if they contained heresy. I doubt anyone accuses him of that.
So dfp, i heartily agree with you and additionally, hope that Catholic broadcast media (another gift via the unworthy) will rethink how it handles the work of the flawed, the sinful (who? me?) and those accused of scandal.
Good question. With a zero-tolerance policy I don’t see why he would be any different if we are in fact following the newly zero-tolerance policy…I believe this will probably the new attack for anyone popular in the Catholic Church going forward. Seems all to easy to shut anyone up if you were indeed anti-catholic and flat out didn’t really care about the individual…
seems unlikely though that anyone in the world would actually have this type of agenda…
The Dallas Norms lay out what would happen. The diocese is supposed to have a board established to review such charges. The board would promptly conduct a preliminary investigation. If the preliminary investigation revealed that the charges were credible, the Archbishop would be removed from ministry until the full investigation was complete. If credible allegations of crimes against children were made, the civil authorities would be notified. That is what Canon Law requires be done. Everyone is assuming that was not done in Fr. Corapi’s case, but no one here knows, instead people are happy to assume that his religious superiors are acting improperly.
BTW, more information on the norms for handling abuse allegations are available via the USCCB website:
Father Corapi has identified only one accuser, a . . . ** “former employee”** . . . singular. Facts . . . solid well founded facts . . . are what are needed in a . . . grave . . .situation such as this . . . and are the only basis on which righteous just sound judgement can be made . . . NOT . . . unfounded . . . unsupported . . . imaginings . . . speciously masquerading as some weird sort of . . . “logic” . . . presumptiously derived from . . . “silence” . . . where there is a total lack of factual information or foundation . . . when not restrained . . . such . . . unrestrained licentious imaginings . . . leave the door wide open for the . . . grievious sins . . . of bearing . . . false witness . . . lying . . . calumny (a misrepresentation which can harm another’s reputation) . . . the sin of detraction * (a lessening of reputation or esteem especially by envious, malicious, or petty criticism and imaginings)* . . . **libel **. . . slander . . . etc. Seeking the truth based on fact is what any honest decent investigation regarding such as this matter is all about . . . and is the only basis for sound just judgment . . . whether in the public forum or within the Church . . . or when faced with the necessity of making a personal value judgment . . .
Woe unto them
that call evil good, and good evil;
that put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
In this . . . grave . . . situation . . . we need . . . **to stick to the **facts . . . and wait on the Lord and **His **Church to reveal more when the investigation of the facts is complete . . .
The below reference from Sacred :bible1: Scripture is the Eighth Commandment of the Ten Commandments . . . and is covered in considerable detail in The Catechism of the Catholic Church . . . a portion of which is below . . .
"Thou shalt NOT bear false witness against thy neighbor."
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church
THE EIGHTH COMMANDMENT
Lying is the most direct offense against the truth. To lie is to speak or act against the truth in order to lead someone into error. By injuring man’s relation to truth and to his neighbor, a lie offends against the fundamental relation of man and of his word to the Lord.
The gravity of a lie is measured against the nature of the truth it deforms, the circumstances, the intentions of the one who lies, and the harm suffered by its victims. To lie is to speak or act against the truth in order to lead someone into error.
By its very nature, lying is to be condemned. **It is a profanation of speech, whereas the purpose of speech is to communicate **known truth to others. The deliberate intention of leading a neighbor into error by saying things contrary to the truth constitutes a failure in justice and charity. The culpability is greater when the intention of deceiving entails the risk of deadly consequences for those who are led astray.
Since it violates the virtue of truthfulness, a lie does real violence to another. It affects his ability to know, which is a condition of every judgment and decision. It contains the seed of discord and all consequent evils. Lying is destructive of society; it undermines trust among men and tears apart the fabric of social relationships.[/INDENT][RIGHT]. . . all for Jesus+[/RIGHT]
Is this what was done in his case? The board promptly conducted a preliminary investigation on Corapi and were credible and removed him from ministry? If so then we must admit that the charges are indeed credible against him based on the board?
I think that for anyone to stop sending contributions to EWTN on account of this pending situation is making a huge mistake----and doing exactly what the devil wants.
We are in the midst of a spiritual battle against an enemy who wages war against the Church and the family. The Eternal Word Television network started by Mother Angelica needs to continue to reach the millions of viewers around the world with it’s powerful message.
Regardless if we agree with their decision to put Fr. Corapi’s lectures on hold, it is imperative that this network stays on the air. Those who suspend their contributions are making a huge mistake.
And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17
I too hope for the best case scenario with Fr. Corapi’s case. But even if it turned out that he was lying and did fall into sin, I would love him even more, because I know that Satan has wicked ways of tricking people, and lays down snares especially against influential priests—even though the world and the flesh offer enough temptations as it is.
We must NEVER abandon any priest, or anyone for that matter, who has the misfortune of yielding and falling to temptation. We in the Church Militant are at war with the infernal enemy, and when one of our fellow soldiers falls and is wounded, we must come to his aid.
I have been worried about Fr. Corapi for the past year ever since I saw his changing appearance. I found it rather troubling and odd to say the least for a priest in a religious order who is 62 years old with white/gray hair to suddenly trim and dye his beard black. I tried to reconcile this by offering the benefit of the doubt, thinking, well, maybe he wants to appeal to the younger generation and appear strong. But my gut feeling was that it was strange.
Since our pilgrimage on earth is a journey to increasingly become more and more united to Jesus Christ and reach perfect union with God in heaven, I’m hoping that Fr. Corapi turns his back completely on the world and lets his beard grow as white as Fr. Groeschel’s. Maybe this event in his life is a blessing in some way, even though he’s probably telling the truth and is innocent, because fame, power, and adoring fans is a recipe for temptation and corruption, especially since there are wicked people who are more than willing to do what they can to help you fall into sin. No man can live in the world and not be tempted. I know that if I had fame, power, adoring fans and plagued with occasions of sin, I know that I would probably be in trouble, with no need of the devil.
When we yield to the world and to the flesh and fall into the snares of the infernal foe, we make ourselves vulnerable. Father Corapi himself said that Satan is like a ferocious dog on a chain, and cannot harm us unless we get close enough and fall within his grasp through yielding to mortal sin.
“A saint is one who is so fascinated by the beauty of God and by his perfect truth as to be progressively transformed by it.”–Pope Benedict XVI
We simply do not know. All we know is the information that Fr. Corapi has chosen to release. The officials conducting the investigation are not releasing any information about their investigation - and I think that is the right thing for them to do. We should withold judgment against anyone involved in this situation until the facts come out.
That is not what Fr. Corapi said. As said earlier, he wrote:
On Ash Wednesday I learned that a former employee sent a three-page letter to several bishops accusing me of everything from drug addiction to multiple sexual exploits with her and several other adult women.
You have changed the wording and included the word “one” and “only”. These are not in the Father’s statement and are not implied in it. I would suggest you read your own post about Truth. I did nothing contrary to what you posted.
Also, it does not add weight to an argument to keep changing fonts. There is not need to be uncharitable.
Immaculate Heart Radio is standing by Fr. Corapi and will continue to play his stuff until he is found guilty. You can listen to them online ihradio.org/
What I don’t understand is why Immaculate Heart Radio is allowed to play his material but EWTN is not. Did the Church mandate that his stuff stop being played on the air? If so, why is Immaculate Heart Radio is going against what the Church asks…
EWTN states: “We are obliged to do so in obedience to the discipline of the Church.”
Immaculate Heart Radio…isn’t obliged to the discipline of the Church?
Kinda makes you wonder honestly if this was just a personal decision of EWTN or if they are really are obliged to the discipline of the Church. And it’s not even that they don’t play his material, they completely took him out of their catalog as well. This happened and a decision was made in 1 day.:shrug:
If it wrong to play his material over the air because of EWTN’s claim, is it wrong for me to pop in his dvd and watch it with my family on the TV after dinner? both are doing the same thing broadcasting his material…
EWTN may have been the local Bishop’s decision (or a Franciscan one). EWTN would be bound, but no one outside of his diocese would be bound by the decision. I’m guessing, obviously
Perhaps EWTN doesn’t want risk the chance of looking bad? Or they have some inside information about Fr. John’s situation that we don’t know about? The network isn’t run by Mother Angelica. In 1999 The Holy See appointed an Apostolic Visitor, Archbishop Roberto González Nieves of San Juan, Puerto Rico, to investigate. Archbishop Gonzalez Nieves saw three distinct problems: the ownership of the network, the monastery’s right to give property to EWTN, and, since she had never been elected, the legitimacy of Mother Angelica’s authority. To prevent the Holy See from making changes, Mother Angelica resigned her positions on the EWTN board and turned it completely over to lay people, which severed official connection with her monastery and assured that the management of EWTN were not directly dependent on the bishops or the Holy See
+Below is the new statement EWTN released just yesterday . . .
. . . :coffeeread: . . .
[INDENT]EWTN releases new statement on Fr. Corapi
**March 23, 2011 **
- posted with comments by Deacon Greg Kandra
Diocese of Brooklyn, New York
"We are aware that many of our supporters are disappointed in EWTN’s decision to remove Father John Corapi’s programs from the Network during his administrative leave. We too are greatly disappointed that EWTN had to make this difficult decision. We can assure you that it was made with much prayer and careful discernment.
The fact is that Father John’s own religious community has placed him on administrative leave and his capacity to function publicly as a priest has been suspended during the investigation of the charges against him. This was officially communicated to all of the bishops of the country in a statement saying that, “…Fr. Corapi has been placed on administrative leave and has had all of his priestly faculties removed.”
In EWTN’s thirty years of existence, the Network has never knowingly aired programming featuring any priest whose priestly faculties have been suspended. The Network has always responded consistently and immediately in such situations by removing such programs from the air. ** We are obliged to do so in obedience to the discipline of the Church.**
Father John has long been a friend of EWTN and many of us have worked closely with him throughout the years. He is a tremendously gifted preacher who has led many souls to Christ. We are doing exactly as he has asked and supporting him and everyone involved in the situation in the best way possible, through our prayers.
It is also our prayer that this matter will be brought to a speedy resolution so that Father John’s programs can be returned to the airwaves."[/INDENT]________________________
COMMENT by Deacon Kandra . . .
This strikes me as sensible and sensitive, and in keeping with canon law. If a priest’s faculties are suspended, it means he cannot celebrate the sacraments publicly, wear clerical attire, or publicly present himself as a priest. If he can’t do that now, he shouldn’t be doing it on a broadcast, even if it was taped when he was a priest in good standing.
Let’s continue to pray for a swift and positive resolution to this whole matter, for the sake of Fr. Corapi — and for the sake of all his faithful viewers, too.
:compcoff: Link: patheos.com/community/deaconsbench/2011/03/23/ewtn-releases-new-statement-on-fr-corapi/
[RIGHT]. . . all for Jesus+
+ Jesus I Trust in You! +[/RIGHT]