France to Push Homosexual Rights at the UN General Assembly [Should the U.N. have its own Defense of Marriage Act?]

According to c-fam.org/ there are agents within the U.N. who seem hell-bent on approving of and encouraging homosexual sex-acts, by means of making homosexual marriage an international human right.

Could pro-family, pro-Life, pro-human survival members of the U.N. possibly introduce some DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) type measures to prevent this sneaky encroachment strategy from perverting sexuality worldwide?

Why havn’t we been already? That’s a great idea!

Maybe the UN needs to be disbanded. It seems to cause more harm then good.

That’s because it is a human right.

Who are you to tell me exactly whom I am allowed to fall in love with?

From the article…

A delegate from a country that consistently votes against attempts to advance a pro-homosexual agenda told the Friday Fax that France was unlikely to have the votes to secure a resolution in the Third Committee, and thus is instead introducing a “political declaration” – distinct from either a “resolution” or a “declaration” – which need not be voted upon. Any member state can propose a political declaration, which other countries may then join, before sending it to the Secretary General…

Currently, an estimated 90 countries throughout the world criminalize sodomy. It is expected that this action by France and other like minded states will touted by proponents as an action of the General Assembly which would be false. The document would also be touted by advocates as a development of a soft law norm that signals a movement by states toward a rights-based acceptance of homosexual conduct.

I see no reason such members couldn’t use the same “sneaky encroachment strategy” to put forward their own declaration. That this hasn’t happened probably means such governments haven’t felt the same need as the French to score domestic political points with empty posturing on the issue.

[quote=urban-hermit]According to c-fam.org/ there are agents within the U.N. who seem hell-bent on approving of and encouraging homosexual sex-acts, by means of making homosexual marriage an international human right.
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It appears you misread the article. I see nothing at all about marriage.

Anti-sodmy laws don’t tell you who you cannot fall in love with, just how you express it. If you are in country which the mores of that country see sodomy as anti-social and appalling, who is the UN to enforce your way of life (if it is your why of life) on that society?

It appears rights of a culture are only important to some if it adapts White Euorpean Liberalism/socialism. **Colonialism **is suppose to be evil, yet so many liberals only think it should be opposed if has Judea-Christian values attached to it, otherwise it is ok to force immorality prized as freedom and right in the west upon the rest of the world.:shrug: Go figure…

Precisely.

Let’s take a marriage benefit such as…hospital visitation.

I’m an adult able to make decisions on my own. I’m a taxpayer.

Who are you to tell me no when I say that, in the event I was in a car crash, I want a man I love to be given access to see me versus a woman?

You cannot put civil rights on a ballot. If you did we may very well still have a few states in the union that believe in the institution of slavery.

Are you ok with forcing Saudi Arabia to accept christianity? Something they consider an immorality in their culture.

Who proposed to do that? not I.

But to try force Saudi Arabia to accept homsexuality and see what happens.

I though that because of this statement

“yet so many liberals only think it should be opposed if has Judea-Christian values attached to it, otherwise it is ok to force immorality prized as freedom and right in the west upon the rest of the world.”

I assumed you were a conservative who support colonialism with Judeochristian values attached to it.

I wanted to clarify and was just seening if you were consistent. Im glad to see you are.

What about Frances culture, do you believe that they should stand by and watch what they believe is an evil and say nothing about it? Where is French cultures right to complain and try to protect humans? Unlike the US they have chosen a more peaceful way, should that not be respected?

No it isn’t.

You assumed wrong. I don’t support colonialism at all.

It’ll never happen. The Islamic oil states will lobby against it and it’ll die.

So you are against missionaries one the ideals and forces behind colonialism. So follow your own adivce and stop trying to force your cultural beliefs, ie Homosexuality is a sin, against France or you are acting your self as a colonialist which you oppose.

Who are you to tell us that the definition of marriage must be changed to encompass you sexual behavior?

A myth. I have never seen anyone turned away from a hopspital regardless of who they were visiting. and if it making medical decisions is what you are after a durable power of attorney will take care of it. Lot less of a hassle than forcing your personal definition of marriage on the rest of us.

You cannot put civil rights on a ballot. If you did we may very well still have a few states in the union that believe in the institution of slavery.

No civil rights accrue from sodomy

I just looked at my passport, nope I haven’t been to France:shrug:
So why is France trying to force it culture on me?

The more progressive of you (and I say that tongue firmly in cheek) are at least willing to recognize the right of homosexuals to be together. So you do believe homosexuality is a sin, but are decent enough to allow folks to lead their own lifestyle, presumably as long as they aren’t hurting anybody.

So why then is it a major event when that same homosexual couple wants, not special rights, but the same rights that a heterosexual couple has?

“because it’s immoral” is not a reason, it’s an opinion. You’re talking about the love of someones life here. That wouldn’t be good enough for you, so put yourself in the situation of looking a person in the eye and explaining to them why their stable relationship isn’t worth as much as yours.

Oh for heaven’s sake! Is it EVER possible to stick to the topic when this subject comes up? Do we ALWAYS have to end up in the same pileup of rhetorical nonsense?

The subject of THIS thread is:

Could pro-family, pro-Life, pro-human survival members of the U.N. possibly introduce some DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act) type measures to prevent this sneaky encroachment strategy from perverting sexuality worldwide?

My question to the OP is: who are these “pro-family, pro-Life” members of the UN? Do they exist and if so, are they in the minority?

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