Franciscan woman priest?

I was just looking at religious vocations, and was reading about different religious within their community, the first seemed quite inspiring, then I read

franciscans.org.uk/becoming-a-franciscan/some-of-our-stories/liz-csf

She says she is an ordained priest, how come?

Am I reading this correctly, it kind of put me off the order.

Thanks

Just realised there are Anglican Franciscan and she is therefore one of them

Is the order split or do they all live together as one community?

There aren’t many Anglican monks and nuns, but there are a few. As far as I know, there is no formal connection at all with the Catholic orders.

I wonder what St Francis would make of thiis

I could understand say high-Anglicans but women priests accepted into the order this is weird to me.

Thanks for explaining there is no formal connection I wish the website would at least make this clear since it does seem somewhat scandalous, and would or should not be inspiring to the majority discerning this order (based on that there are not many Anglicans as you said).

Actually, if you scroll down on the Living as a Franciscan heading in the sidebar it has a heading something like ‘the Anglican Franciscan story’.

As you say, though, it isn’t made clear up front.

Non-Catholic Franciscans drive me nuts. St. Francis was very clear that we should be loyal to the Catholic Church & the Pope.

Coming from a Secular Franciscan, I’m surprised at the remarkably unFranciscan attitude about them driving you nuts.:shrug:

Sorry I’m not living up to your expectations. Please explain the proper Franciscan attitude so I can please you. :shrug:

One can be supportive of all of Creation - the Franciscan way - while not renouncing one’s own faith at the same time - also the Franciscan way. ;):thumbsup: - this is probably what Bonnie means…

St. Francis was supportive of Muslims and other heretics. He said they should convert and become Catholics right away!

The Catholic Church does recognize women priest. That simple.

There are no Catholic validly ordained priests who are women. There are other religions that do have ministers & priests who are women, and the Church “recognizes” them.

Do you mean “does not”?

:rotfl: :thumbsup:

The Benedictines had been in England for just shy of a thousand years when England broke communion with Rome and their presence in England was at the very bedrock of the English Church. The Franciscans also had a vibrant presence in the English Church. These, together with more contemporary institutions for perfection, have expressions in worldwide Anglicanism. They are a very important presence in the Anglican Roman Catholic dialogues and they are important partners in ecumenical endeavours.

There are no ties, certainly, at the level of governance but there are warm and cordial relations – the Anglican Benedictines are always listed in the Annual Yearbook of the English Congregation of the Benedictine Confederation, for example.

The Franciscans are popular enough and present enough that one can never automatically presume, when one encounters something Franciscan in England that it is Roman Catholic, it very well may be Anglican.

It has indeed affected everything here. Sadly.

My apologies…Wanting to please anyone other than Christ, or to be displeased by our neighbor is not a Franciscan attribute…that is precisely why I deliberately chose the word “surprised”, rather than “displeased”…You did not displease me, and i am not asking you to please me. Francis lived to please only Christ, not to please others, and through his humility he expected no one to make any effort to please him, but rather they strive to please only Christ.

And when the Creator told St. Francis to rebuild His Church, then did this not mean the Catholic Church?

That said, there was more to this statement, as the task was also to rebuild the mindset of the Catholic faith, from the heart (I think?!) - the real emphasis that had become overshadowed. But this didn’t mean renouncing his Catholic belief (I think?!) just as much as it did mean to be welcoming and to be loving to all people.

Except when Christ spoke to Francis, all that could be renounced is the Faith, because there was only one Church which happened to be the Catholic Church.

my own thoughts are Francis would, if he were alive today, be encouraged rather than be “bugged” by those of other denominations following the way he founded. He would, in my mind, have employed the Gospel message of Christ when he reminded his disciples in Matthew 12:30, Mark 9:40, and Luke 9:50.

Oh yes! :p:D

Although there were still other belief systems. Either way, he was progressing outward to people.

my own thoughts are Francis would, if he were alive today, be encouraged rather than be “bugged” by those of other denominations following the way he founded. He would, in my mind, have employed the Gospel message of Christ when he reminded his disciples in Matthew 12:30, Mark 9:40, and Luke 9:50.

Maybe, maybe not. I think he would always be loving in everything but this does not necessarily mean accepting of all the ways. He would always encourage and yet his very presence would likely be humbling.

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