Freedom of Speech...Unless you criticise the President?

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The Denver Police Department is investigating a sergeant who allegedly threatened to arrest a 26-year-old for displaying a derogatory bumper sticker about President George W. Bush. Shame it doesn’t say what it said!!

Then there’s this chap who was visited by the secret service for displaying anti-Bush…Well it’s not really a bumper sticker…It’s more like sign writing!!!
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Shame it doesn’t tell you what the first one said! Although I did find some on line. I wont post them in case someone here assasinates me, but I’ll give you a link if you want to buy some?
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Only joking!!!
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thejacksonchannel.com/news/4128372/detail.html

The Denver Police Department is investigating a sergeant who allegedly threatened to arrest a 26-year-old for displaying a derogatory bumper sticker about President George W. Bush. Shame it doesn’t say what it said!!

Then there’s this chap who was visited by the secret service for displaying anti-Bush…Well it’s not really a bumper sticker…It’s more like sign writing!!!
:stuck_out_tongue:

Shame it doesn’t tell you what the first one said! Although I did find some on line. I wont post them in case someone here assasinates me, but I’ll give you a link if you want to buy some?
:wink:

Only joking!!!
:dancing:

[quote=FightingFat] Shame it doesn’t tell you what the first one said! Although I did find some on line. I wont post them in case someone here assasinates me, but I’ll give you a link if you want to buy some?
:wink:

Only joking!!!
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:tsktsk: Profanity not acceptable on the bumper sticker or here. Bush haters have trouble with that. They are not acceptable in their means of expression. :slight_smile:

[quote=Fitz]:tsktsk: Profanity not acceptable on the bumper sticker or here. Bush haters have trouble with that. They are not acceptable in their means of expression. :slight_smile:
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Are you suggesting that everyone who does not support the Presidency of George W Bush is necessarily a greater sinner than those who do support him?
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[quote=Matt25]Are you suggesting that everyone who does not support the Presidency of George W Bush is necessarily a greater sinner than those who do support him?
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Of course not, but I do see what Hollywood does. I am making fun of the bumper sticker situation. I think the post is bogus. I am not a bumper sticker advocate. I am just laughing if the original poster thinks this is serious.:slight_smile:

[quote=Matt25]Are you suggesting that everyone who does not support the Presidency of George W Bush is necessarily a greater sinner than those who do support him?
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He may not be suggesting it, but I will.

Don’t you have anything in the UK to worry about? How about a prince who dresses as a Nazi for a costume ball? Americans don’t go picking on you or your country. Why do you feel compelled to slam us and our president. It was 6 years ago today(1/26) that Bill made his infamous TV speech saying, “I did not have sex with that woman!” I don’t remember you speaking out against that. The president never left a young woman to drown in the back seat of his car like Ted Kennedy did. Never saw a word from you about that. Is it only conservatives you feel free to slam?
Since you are in the UK I don’t think you have to worry about the American law inforcement personnel coming after you, you are much more likely to be killed by an act of terrorism committed by the IRA or a radical Muslim.

[quote=Lance]Don’t you have anything in the UK to worry about?
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Yes the leader of the free world worries me.

How about a prince who dresses as a Nazi for a costume ball?

Sure, lets talk about it…What do you want to discuss?

Americans don’t go picking on you or your country. Why do you feel compelled to slam us and our president.

This is a discussion forum for stuff in the news. This is stuff in the news…I even linked to some news website so you could read it for yourself.
I’m not ‘picking’ on anyone. I’m just posting on a discussion forum (Look up the word discussion in the dictionary, you may find the definition helpfull!)

It was 6 years ago today(1/26) that Bill made his infamous TV speech saying, “I did not have sex with that woman!” I don’t remember you speaking out against that.

Well I wasn’t in your company at the time!
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I did (speak about it), mainly, I rolled round on the floor laughing about it, (but, as some US bumper stickers point out, Clinton’s lies did not cost lives) That’s what you do with news friend; discuss it.

[quote=FightingFat]Yes the leader of the free world worries me.


I did (speak about it), mainly, I rolled round on the floor laughing about it, (but, as some US bumper stickers point out, Clinton’s lies did not cost lives) That’s what you do with news friend; discuss it.
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I knew tis was going to be your retort, how about Kennedy’s lie? It sure cost the life of Mary Jo Kopecne.

[quote=FightingFat]Yes the leader of the free world worries me.

Sure, lets talk about it…What do you want to discuss?

This is a discussion forum for stuff in the news. This is stuff in the news…I even linked to some news website so you could read it for yourself.
I’m not ‘picking’ on anyone. I’m just posting on a discussion forum (Look up the word discussion in the dictionary, you may find the definition helpfull!)

Well I wasn’t in your company at the time!
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I did (speak about it), mainly, I rolled round on the floor laughing about it, (but, as some US bumper stickers point out, Clinton’s lies did not cost lives) That’s what you do with news friend; discuss it.
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Well, at least you admit that America is the leader of the free world.
What do you think of the prince’s actions? Why have you not posted here either condemning or defending him?
No need to get you shorts in a knot, I know the meaning of discussion, it is just that the only discussion you want is about how bad the conservatives in America are and I was wondering if there wasn’t something in the UK that worried you more than the freedom in America to have a profane bumper sticker?
What in the world have I ever said or done to give you the impression that I was your friend?

Lance mate, you mistake my motives. I’m not a republican or a democrat, I’m a Catholic.

I was trying to say I’m quite happy to criticise either side, and my own government, and the French and the Germans and anyone else in the news.

Honestly, I’m sorry if I offended you, that’s not my objective. You support this bloke and some things he does seem a bit dodgy to me. So the best way for me to learn why you support him is to ask you is it not? Then I might better understand your position and you might better understand mine?
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Actually the Leader of the free world, in fact the whole world, is Jesus as far as I know, unless GB has been promoted recently!!

[quote=Trelow]He may not be suggesting it, but I will.
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[size=2] “The Lord bless you and keep you, and make His face to shine upon you and be gracious unto you.
The Lord look upon you with kindness and give you peace.” [/size]

[quote=Lance]Well, at least you admit that America is the leader of the free world.
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Oh brother!:rolleyes:

[quote=Lance]What do you think of the prince’s actions? Why have you not posted here either condemning or defending him?
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Well, I don’t think it’s a massive deal and no one else started a thread on it.
I think he’s a stupid kid. I think no one else would have batted an eye, but because he is in line for the throne that should have been considered. I don’t think he meant anything by it though. What do you think?

[quote=Lance]No need to get you shorts in a knot,
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Touche!!!:slight_smile:

[quote=Lance]I know the meaning of discussion, it is just that the only discussion you want is about how bad the conservatives in America are and I was wondering if there wasn’t something in the UK that worried you more than the freedom in America to have a profane bumper sticker?
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The way that people jump on me when I try and talk about President Bush fascinates me. It’s sheepish IMO. It’s interesting. I think the Presidents policies contradict Catholic beliefs and find it incredible that many here support him. Am I missing something? The best way to find out is to talk to you. What’s it got to do with me? Well, I visit the US regularly and love it. I have family all over the show (Boston, NY, LA) and love them, and America is so big now, everything it does effects everyone. So everyone is interested in American policy and feelings. I think that’s fair enough, don’t you?

[quote=Lance]What in the world have I ever said or done to give you the impression that I was your friend?
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Nothing, but I like to think everyones my friend! :slight_smile: Sad innit?!!

welcome to Catholic Answers Forums… sheese!

[quote=Matt25][size=2] “The Lord bless you and keep you, and make His face to shine upon you and be gracious unto you.
The Lord look upon you with kindness and give you peace.” [/size]
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And upon you as well.

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[quote=FightingFat] So the best way for me to learn why you support him is to ask you is it not? Then I might better understand your position and you might better understand mine?
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I think this is progress. I want to be respected for thinking what I do, not accused of listening to FOX and being single mindedly stupid. I am sorry but some of the threads here are accusatory and not too good for communication. I would like some of the words that cause strife to be taken out of these posts.

I wrote some silly post early this morning to this post because I am taking this one light heartedly. I think bumper stickers are goofy at best. Yet, I respect my President. If someone for instance had one that was foul languaged or perhaps talking about violence, then I would want the police to stop the offender.

It would take another thread on why I respect the President of our country. I would honestly tell you why if I was convinced you could or really wanted to listen to it. We perhaps get better more fair coverage of him than you do. I have been reading the BBC and the coverage is pretty slanted. It is no wonder you would expect us to hate him.

[quote=FightingFat]thejacksonchannel.com/news/4128372/detail.html

The Denver Police Department is investigating a sergeant who allegedly threatened to arrest a 26-year-old for displaying a derogatory bumper sticker about President George W. Bush. Shame it doesn’t say what it said!!

Then there’s this chap who was visited by the secret service for displaying anti-Bush…Well it’s not really a bumper sticker…It’s more like sign writing!!!
:stuck_out_tongue:

Shame it doesn’t tell you what the first one said! Although I did find some on line. I wont post them in case someone here assasinates me, but I’ll give you a link if you want to buy some?
:wink:

Only joking!!!
:dancing:
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Freedom of speech… and freedom to be sound dumb, freedom to be tasteless, freedom to be crass, freedom to be disrespectful, freedom to look bad, freedom to deface your own property.

Gosh, ain’t freedom grand!

[quote=FightingFat]Oh brother!:rolleyes:

Well, I don’t think it’s a massive deal and no one else started a thread on it.
I think he’s a stupid kid. I think no one else would have batted an eye, but because he is in line for the throne that should have been considered. I don’t think he meant anything by it though. What do you think?

Touche!!!:slight_smile:

The way that people jump on me when I try and talk about President Bush fascinates me. It’s sheepish IMO. It’s interesting. I think the Presidents policies contradict Catholic beliefs and find it incredible that many here support him. Am I missing something? The best way to find out is to talk to you. What’s it got to do with me? Well, I visit the US regularly and love it. I have family all over the show (Boston, NY, LA) and love them, and America is so big now, everything it does effects everyone. So everyone is interested in American policy and feelings. I think that’s fair enough, don’t you?

Nothing, but I like to think everyones my friend! :slight_smile: Sad innit?!!
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I know I will regret asking you this but here it is.DO YOU(pause) think Kerry represented the Catholic faith?

[quote=Lisa4Catholics]I know I will regret asking you this but here it is.DO YOU(pause) think Kerry represented the Catholic faith?
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Good question.:thumbsup:

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