Further Proof of the Irrelevancy of Embryonic Stem Cells


#1

This article from LifeSiteNews.com further prooves that embryonic stem cells are not necessary:

[font=Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, Sans-Serif]Taiwanese Research Team Finds New Source of Stem Cells in Placenta

[left]TAIPEI, January 5, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The two possible sources of stem cells, “adult” or post-natal stem cells and those derived from living embryos, have caused a conflict in the scientific community, setting ethics against hoped-for scientific advancement.

Now a group of Taiwanese researchers has isolated stem cells from human placenta tissue and has found that their flexibility may be the equal of embryonic cells. The scientists, from National Health Research Institutes and Cathay General Hospital, Taipei, have isolated stem cells from placentas left after full term pregnancy and offer them as a solution to the ethical impasse.

The researchers have developed bone marrow and other cells from the stem cells extracted from the placenta and say that there may be future applications for brain damage or bone fractures.

The newly discovered cells, called placenta-derived multipotent cells (PDMCs), are available from an organ that is normally discarded after birth. “Unlike embryonic stem cells, PDMCs are free from ethical considerations,” said Chen Yao-chang, head of the National Health Research Institutes’ Stem Cell Research Center, told reporters.

Much like cord blood, this source of stem cells may be applicable in a variety therapies without the dangers of tissue rejection common to embryonic and fetal cell transplants. The cells are also available without the painful and difficult surgery necessary to extract stem cells from bone marrow.

Read the research abstract in
The International Journal of Cell Differentiation and Proliferation:
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[left]Of Course, you will not see any of this in the main stream media.[/left]

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PF


#2

Of course you won’t. That would interfere with the media’s perception of those who oppose Embryonic Stem Cell Research as fanatics who care about embryos more than we care about people (because, according to the mainstream media, embryos are not people). I just did a short speech on this issue, but I found out lots of things you won’t hear about in the mainstream media. People have actually been cured using stem cells from other sources, but no one has been treated with embryonic stem cells. Even from a merely practical point of view, non-embryonic stem cells should be given more attention than embryonic stem cells, because with limited time and money, it makes more sense to pursue the treatment more likely to work. Strangely, no one does this when it comes to stem cell research. It’s almost as if there’s something else going on here…


#3

Isn’t it obvious? Anything, and I mean ANYTHING that will promote the welbeing and ethics of anything having to do with embryos etc. is bad news for pro-abortionists, of which the mainstream media is a part of. It’s not really much to do with the stem cells, it’s for the abortionists!


#4

Stem cell research and the moral implications of it fascinates me.

This may be a good thing since I may have to write a paper in a moral theology class in the near future. At least I will have a topic handy.

PF


#5

Wandering Aimlessly, This Rock had an article on embryos called X Marks the Spot by James Kidd. The article appeared in the April 2004 issue. This is the link for it catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0405fea2.asp


#6

Do you think the people of California will ante up with more mega-billions to fund this research in addition to embryonic stem cell research? Or will they just ignore it and continue to fund the manufacture of babies for murder?


#7

We won’t be able to fully learn about embryonic stem cells until we completely understand about adult stem cells. Reverse engineering if you will.


#8

[quote=Magster]Do you think the people of California will ante up with more mega-billions to fund this research in addition to embryonic stem cell research? Or will they just ignore it and continue to fund the manufacture of babies for murder?
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I voted no for that proposition, but it passed and it looks like my tax dollars will pay for these immoral acts anyway.:frowning:


#9

The jist of the story is that they now are able to retrieve stem cells that are equivalent to “embryonic” stem cells without having to murder unborn humans.

This will help in the research, but I agree that “adult” stem cells are showing more promise.

PF


#10

[quote=WanderAimlessly]The jist of the story is that they now are able to retrieve stem cells that are equivalent to “embryonic” stem cells without having to murder unborn humans.

This will help in the research, but I agree that “adult” stem cells are showing more promise.

PF
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And adult stem cells are available from other sources than bone marrow…

medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=13146

Stem cells from fat tissue discarded during liposuction is showing a lot of promise. Someone’s vanity may help in curing others! Looked at another way, we all have an easy to get at source of stem cells from our own body. Some of us have more than others. :smiley:

The placenta story is great news! Especially since it may not have the rejection issues experienced in other stem cell research. My Mom has Parkinson’s and I’m the only Catholic in the family. Needless to say, my view on embryonic stem cell research is not popular at family gatherings.

God Bless,

Robert.


#11

[quote=WanderAimlessly]Stem cell research and the moral implications of it fascinates me.

This may be a good thing since I may have to write a paper in a moral theology class in the near future. At least I will have a topic handy.

PF
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I bet this is a hot topic in college nowadays.


#12

[quote=rlg94086]And adult stem cells are available from other sources than bone marrow…

medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=13146

Stem cells from fat tissue discarded during liposuction is showing a lot of promise. Someone’s vanity may help in curing others! Looked at another way, we all have an easy to get at source of stem cells from our own body. Some of us have more than others. :smiley:

The placenta story is great news! Especially since it may not have the rejection issues experienced in other stem cell research. My Mom has Parkinson’s and I’m the only Catholic in the family. Needless to say, my view on embryonic stem cell research is not popular at family gatherings.

God Bless,

Robert.
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Even the biased medai has mentioned a number of times that the proponents of embryonic stem cel research hold out little or no hope to treat Parkinsons and Alsheimers diseases


#13

There are some signs of effectiveness against Parkinson’s in monkeys…(I love Google!)

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4134343.stm

but, they have a long way to go. I have always cautioned though against being too optimistic about the claims of some embryonic stem cell proponents.

Peace,

Robert.


#14

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