ericc. It sounds like YOU already know, but there may be readers of this thread who don’t know about original sin . . . so let’s do the “quick-view” on original sin.
Original Sin is a lack or “privation” or “deprivation” of sanctifying grace.
Original sin changed our very nature. Since the best parents can do is pass on their nature to their children, we pass-on this fallen deprived nature to our children.
CCC 405 Although it is proper to each individual,295 original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam’s descendants. It is a deprivation of original holiness and justice, but human nature has not been totally corrupted: it is wounded in the natural powers proper to it, subject to ignorance, suffering and the dominion of death, and inclined to sin - an inclination to evil that is called concupiscence". Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ’s grace, erases original sin and turns a man back towards God, but the consequences for nature, weakened and inclined to evil, persist in man and summon him to spiritual battle.
CCC 417 Adam and Eve transmitted to their descendants human nature wounded by their own first sin and hence deprived of original holiness and justice; this deprivation is called “original sin”.
CCC 418 As a result of original sin, human nature is weakened in its powers, subject to ignorance, suffering and the domination of death, and inclined to sin (this inclination is called “concupiscence”).
Now on the Baptism aspects, etc. . . .
Baptism GIVES sanctifying grace.
Baptism heals the wounded human nature.
Baptism GIVES us the Holy Spirit and gives us the life of God in us including supernatural faith, hope, and charity which we need to please God.
Baptism IS as you said, 100% “efficacious in wiping clean all prior sins” (and original sin) and the temporal punishment for those sins too.
Yet temporal consequences to sin REMAIN after Baptism including “weakness of character.”
CCC 1264a Yet certain temporal consequences of sin remain in the baptized, such as suffering, illness, death, and such frailties inherent in life as weaknesses of character, and so on, . . .
I hear as a frequent mischaracterization of the trans-generational and intergenerational healing advocates, that you are “accountable” for your ancestors sins in the sense of your judgment.
YET NOBODY is or ever has been held accountable on their judgment for their ancestors sins OK? When I am judged some day, God is NOT going to say: “Well your great grandfather did THIS so I am holding YOU accountable Cathoholic!” No!
God has never done that and never would do that. . . . That being said . . .
God will/does allow the EFFECTS OF SIN to be trans-generational and intergenerational.
It is a mystery WHY these effects of evil are seen and passed on, but Baptism does not do away with all these things (as the CCC 1264 explains).
If an infant who was never Baptized gets beat-up (or worse) by a brutal caretaker . . . if you go and Baptize that infant the bruising doesn’t go away from the Baptism does it?
There are EFFECTS of that sin that remain in that infant and in society as well.
MATTHEW 24:12 12 And because wickedness is multiplied, most men’s love will grow cold.
Do inappropriate thoughts and opinions regarding the transgenerational and intergenerational healing movement exist? Of course.
Are there people who try to use prayers or formulas as a counterfeit/surrogate for the Sacraments? Yes.
But Father Hampsch isn’t one of those people who ignores the healing effects of the sacraments (as one of your AD2000 articles that you cited implies).
Fr. Hampsch sees the Sacraments as our primary spiritual gifts to fight back against the EFFECTS of evil (see here).
Also people like Father Hampsch and Father Ssemakula (see here) see not as a “replacement” for the sacraments in fighting the effects of sin, but as something to augment or supplement or “beef-up” our sacramental life.
“Baptism . . . . summon(s) him (us) to spiritual battle” as CCC 405 states, not replaces this battle that we are now empowered for and called to do.
Here is what you stated (bold and ul mine):
She said generational sins could affect current generation. Actually she tried to use verbage similar to that for Original Sin, i.e. stain of sin aka effect of sin. I asked , isn’t baptism efficacious in wiping clean all prior sins? Because if what she claim is true, then baptism is not 100% effective.
Your sister is right AND you are right. But your are not talking about the same senses. Until you and your sister define your meanings, it will be difficult for you to understand what she is saying. I think she is talking about the EFFECTS (“affect”) of sin is on an individual or society transgenerationally and intergenerationally.
This temporal effects of sins running through generations is pretty classic Catholic teaching.
The issue is, what gifts are we given to mitigate these effects? HOW are we “summoned” to battle, that the Sacrament of Baptism empowers us but ALSO summons us to?
Does this answer your question?