Genuine question about a Scripture text for Muslims

Why don’t Muslims believe this piece of scripture? What is your standard apologetic?

Isaiah 9: [6] For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given;
and the government will be upon his shoulder,
and his name will be called
"Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

Because they believe it was “corrupted”… along with any other part of Jewish scripture that happens to contradict their teachings.

One reason might be that Muslims understand the verse in the same way that Jews understand it.

Another reason might be that only the Torah itself was given to Moses, and Isaiah is not part of the Torah.

The ‘corrupt’ issue is primarily directed towards the New Testament Exo, the Hebrew Bible has traditionally been viewed by Muslims as mostly intact.

The standard scholarly Muslim interpretation of this verse however, is more or less inline with the Jewish one. Except that instead of viewing this as referring to Hezekiah, we believe that this prophecy indeed refers to Jesus Christ (as), the Jewish Messiah, and the time of his second coming where he will rule the entire world from Jerusalem in righteousness (i.e. it hasn’t been fulfilled, yet).


How do Muslims define ‘Messiah’? Or, to rephrase, what function does the Messiah perform, in Islam?

Hi Ahsima. :slight_smile:

The Muslim view of the Messiah is (again), mostly inline with that of the Jews, but we identify him as Jesus (as). In his first coming he was initially sent to teach the Jews about the spiritual nature of their faith, that inner piety was more important than outwardly demonstrations of it, anything otherwise was hypocrisy. However the Jews rejected him, had they accepted him then it is implied that they would have remained God’s chosen people and that Jesus (as) would take on the political role ascribed to him in the prophecies written in the Hebrew Bible, but they didn’t so this never came to be (all part of God’s plan, of course). Thus the Kingdom of God was taken from the Jews and given to another nation, and Jesus (as) was the last of the line of Jewish Prophets (this Islamic teaching, being consistent with Jesus’ words in Matthew 21:19 and 21:43).

The other nation is of course the Gentiles, and according to Islam is the Muslims as through the Prophet Muhammad (saaw). Prior to the establishment of the new Kingdom of God under him in Medina (instead of Jerusalem), we have Muhammad’s night journey to Jerusalem, where he prays upon the Temple Mount with the other Jewish Prophets behind him; and afterwards the Qibla (the direction in which Muslims pray) is changed from Jerusalem to Mecca, and the Qur’an begins to speak of the Muslims as a community of God. This is all symbolic of God’s ‘chosen people’ being taken from the Jews as their Messiah told them it would if they rejected him, and given to the Muslims.

However, the Children of Israel still have a special place in God’s plan, and the Messiah will return so they may fulfill their role. Muhammad (saaw) prophesied that in the time close to the Day of Judgement, a man shall come to power called the Mahdi, who will set the scene for the second coming of Jesus (as) so to speak. He will restore the Caliphate, and will encounter a community of Jews living in Jerusalem, who he will convince to accept Islam and believe in Jesus (as). Upon this, he will establish the capital of the Caliphate in *Jerusalem *and not Medina, which will be abandoned. He and the Jews will also begin construction of the new/Third Temple.

All this prepares for the return of the Jewish Messiah to Jerusalem (who did say in Matthew 23:39 that the Jews would not see him again till they all believed in him). Jesus (as) will then defeat the Anti-Christ and will rule the entire world from Jerusalem (which is now once again at the heart of the Kingdom of God, instead of Medina), where he will fulfill all the prophesies related to him; he will fully reestablish the Jews as God’s people by bringing them into the Muslim community; he will complete the reconstruction of Solomon’s Temple where the Ark of Covenent will be restored; and all other religions but Islam shall be abolished.

Apologies for the rather long-winded account, hope that helps you better understand what Islam views the Messiah’s ‘function’ will be.

I find in your profile, your religion as Jivanta . I have never heard about this religion. Could you please explain for me?

Since JesusYeshuaIssa did not die a curesed death on Cross but he died a natural and respectful death in Sirinagar, Kashmir, India; so in my view his second coming in a literal and physical form is definitely not going to happen. Yes, symbolically it is possible, and has in fact already taken place in the form of PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908.
ImamMahdi and PromisedMessiah are not two different persons but two different aspects of the same person.
These are my views, others may believe what they are convinced, no compulsion.
ThanksI am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

Like I said, except for the parts that contradict their teaching. I’m not sure why you say they view the Hebrew “Bible” as mostly intact, though… there would be quite a bit of differences with Islamic teaching to explain.

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