'Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone


#1

Eagle-Tribune:

'Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone

NEWBURYPORT — Pat Vaillancourt went on a trip last week that was intended to showcase some of America’s greatest treasures.
Instead, the Salisbury resident said she and others on her tour bus witnessed an ugly spectacle that made her embarrassed, angry and heartbroken for her country.
Vaillancourt was one of thousands of people who found themselves in a national park as the federal government shutdown went into effect on Oct. 1. For many hours her tour group, which included senior citizen visitors from Japan, Australia, Canada and the United States, were locked in a Yellowstone National Park hotel under armed guard.

  The tourists were treated harshly by armed park employees, she said, so  much so that some of the foreign tourists with limited English skills  thought they were under arrest.
  When finally allowed to leave, the bus was not allowed to halt at all  along the 2.5-hour trip out of the park, not even to stop at private  bathrooms that were open along the route.

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Rangers systematically sent visitors out of the park, though some groups that had hotel reservations — such as Vaillancourt’s — were allowed to stay for two days. Those two days started out on a sour note, she said.
The bus stopped along a road when a large herd of bison passed nearby, and seniors filed out to take photos. Almost immediately, an armed ranger came by and ordered them to get back in, saying they couldn’t “recreate.” The tour guide, who had paid a $300 fee the day before to bring the group into the park, argued that the seniors weren’t “recreating,” just taking photos.
“She responded and said, ‘Sir, you are recreating,’ and her tone became very aggressive,” Vaillancourt said.

  The seniors quickly filed back onboard and the bus went to the Old  Faithful Inn, the park’s premier lodge located adjacent to the park’s  most famous site, Old Faithful geyser. That was as close as they could  get to the famous site — barricades were erected around Old Faithful,  and the seniors were locked inside the hotel, where armed rangers stayed  at the door.

Recreating?
Why not black out the windows on the bus so the tourists couldn't view the scenery?
Blame the GOP for the shutdown if you want but this sort of behavior is totally on the administration.


#2

How long are Americans going to put up with this insanity. If senators' and congress members' pay was being withheld I'm sure this would have been settled by now.


#3

Comparing Park Rangers that are just doing their job that Congress told them to do to the gestapo that murdered people is unconscionable. I hope this thread is deleted. :mad:


#4

[quote="tjones80, post:3, topic:341778"]
Comparing Park Rangers that are just doing their job that Congress told them to do to the gestapo that murdered people is unconscionable. I hope this thread is deleted. :mad:

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That's the language used in the original article. If you have an issue with it, take it up with the Eagle-Tribune editors.


#5

Obama's jackboot brigade is on the march, protecting the country from the prying eyes of seniors and tourists.

Something that makes American liberals feel proud to be American.


#6

Lets keep in mind that there are different types of "Park Rangers" who wear the grey and green. Grey shirts and green jackets/pants not brown shirts as is being stated on so many sites on the internet. Law Enforcement Rangers are Federal Law Enforcement Officers and are always armed. Interpretation Rangers are the ones who give tours etc. and Maintenance (formerly General Park Rangers) do the manual labor. The latter two classes are never armed, are not being armed and in any event are ALL furloughed (not at work). What a black eye this sad affair is giving the Park Service just a few years short of its centenary.


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[quote="tjones80, post:3, topic:341778"]
Comparing Park Rangers that are just doing their job that Congress told them to do to the gestapo that murdered people is unconscionable. I hope this thread is deleted. :mad:

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The Gestapo was just doing the job their government told them to do to. Unfortunately your post also shows the similarities.


#8

[quote="tjones80, post:3, topic:341778"]
Comparing Park Rangers that are just doing their job that **Congress **told them to do to the gestapo that murdered people is unconscionable. I hope this thread is deleted. :mad:

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:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Last I looked these bullies report to the administration.


#9

I feel sorry for the senior citizens.:love:


#10

[quote="SamH, post:7, topic:341778"]
The Gestapo was just doing the job their government told them to do to. Unfortunately your post also shows the similarities.

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:thumbsup: I agree with you ! ! :thumbsup:


#11

Actually Congress does not tell National Park Rangers what to do. Congress just authorizes new parks and controls the budget.
The chain of command at any National Park is from bottom up: Chief Ranger (or direct supervisor), Superintendent, Regional Director, Director of the National Park Service, Secretary of the Interior, POTUS.
Each work site should have action plans or SOP's (standard operating procedures) as guidelines for any eventuality. If some overzealous Park Rangers are overstepping their authority to inflict more pain for political gain follow the trail up the chain.


#12

Along with these stories, what gives the administration such a black eye is the number of people that were around for the last government shutdown and know first hand that this is not the norm.


#13

This kind of behavior is not at all unsurprising coming from the Obama administration. :(:mad:


#14

A little history, here's an article from the Atlantic comparing the National Park Svc. during this shutdown and the shutdowns of 95/96.

Also, see Wikipedia re: 95/6 shutdowns. Then, as know, the public blamed the GOP more than the President for the shutdown. Of course, Obama is nowhere near as popular as Clinton was & while Gingrich was a strong Speaker Boehner can't keep his own troops in line.


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