Wow, what a strawman. Continuously ask me questions and then answer them for me too :rolleyes: then bring the typical "despicable coming from a Catholic" comment. If you don't know how to form arguments and can't prevent yourself from committing fallacies, refrain from engaging in debates so you don't look silly.
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Regulate growth? Do you mean force contraceptives on people, as China does, with it's one child policy?
No I didn't state that people should be forced to do any such thing, I did however state to educate people perhaps some people need graphical illustrations as part of the education process of what happens when you have finite resources and a growing population ad infinitum.:rolleyes:
Do you understand that many nations and regions are severely UNDER populated to the point where the death rate is equal to or higher than the birth rate? That is a recipe for extinction!
If anyone has trouble understanding, it would be you. I clearly stated one grand general formula is not applicable to everything and everyone, therefore it would be clear that the nations who needs a good population growth would not fall under the growth regulating model. So yes, I understand that there are nations and regions whereby their population should sustain excellent growth for a long time to come.
Last time I checked, our net population growth was on the increase, therefore to become extinct we would need something besides depopulation to make us extinct, let's not get carried away. Extinction indeed :rolleyes: - where do you live, in the sparsely populated rolling hills of Outer Mongolia?
Problems of distribution of resources cause a lot more deaths than lack of resources - corrupt heads of state and warring tribes that prevent people from getting aid or even food from their own land.
Largely irrelevant, and is far too specific. I am not going to go through every factor, nook and cranny of the population debate. Start looking at the bigger picture.
Finite resources? No, food grows and then grows again. We have better production of food than we ever have, and better methods of preservation. I believe I have seen reports that the USA alone could feed the world if we could only get it to the people who need it such as those in Somalia or North Korea.
Someone obviously never did economics, yes finite resources. What were you thinking, that the world's resources were infinite? :rotfl: - for pete's sake, there needs to be some major re-education done. Food is not the only resource in the world therefore you are incorrect in interpreting "resources" as "food", so when I said resources, I meant the whole lot, and not just one thing. Like I said before, start looking at the bigger picture and stop cherry-picking. Things like fossil fuels are finite resources, land is a finite resource, and whilst we can indeed have renewable sources of energy, there are other factors to consider such as production, to produce things we need raw materials, certain raw materials cannot be renewed, these are finite and over time supplies decrease. In other words, what we have is finite, it does not last forever. As for your food example, that too is finite, there is no infinite food production technique, it's mathematically finite. We can continuously grow more food, but for a larger population this will require more resources, whether it be land or new technologies. There is always a limiting behaviour applicable to these kinds of things.
So what countries have your approval to reproduce? Europe? What nation in Africa should be allowed to reproduce? What about India? What about China? Who decides which country's occupants can reproduce?
I do not intend to answer such a thing, that's far too specific, and this is in line with what I've been saying from the beginning. Such an answer would require a deep and detailed analysis beyond the scope of my understanding, expertise or even the ability of one person.
This is despicable from someone who claims to be a Catholic.
Yea likewise, heck, stay away from debates, people might think Catholics aren't able to form arguments without spewing red herrings everywhere.