Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright Scold Young Women Backing Bernie Sanders

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NY Times:

Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright Scold Young Women Backing Bernie Sanders

Hillary Clinton’s older feminist supporters have a message for young women who are not backing her candidacy: Shame on you.Women were expected to help power Mrs. Clinton to the Democratic nomination, but as she struggles to overcome a tough challenge from Senator Bernie Sanders, her support among them has been surprisingly shaky. Young women, in particular, have been drawn to the septuagenarian socialist from Vermont, and the dynamic has disappointed feminists who dreamed of Mrs. Clinton’s election as a capstone to the movement.
Two feminist icons of Mrs. Clinton’s generation made their frustration known over the weekend, calling on young women who view Mr. Sanders as their candidate to essentially grow up and get with the program.

While introducing Mrs. Clinton at a rally in New Hampshire on Saturday, Madeleine Albright, the first female secretary of state, talked about the importance of electing the first female president. In a dig at the “revolution” that Mr. Sanders often speaks of, she said that the first female commander in chief would be a true revolution. And she scolded any woman who felt otherwise.
“We can tell our story of how we climbed the ladder, and a lot of you younger women think it’s done. It’s not done,” Ms. Albright said of the broader fight for women’s equality. “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”
Mrs. Clinton laughed, slowly clapped her hands and took a large sip of her beverage.
In an attempt to explain Mrs. Clinton’s struggles with female voters in New Hampshire, Ms. Albright said during an NBC interview on Saturday that women could be judgmental toward one another and that they occasionally forgot how hard someone like Mrs. Clinton had to work to get where she is.

  Ms.  Albright’s remarks were not the only instance of an older generation of  feminist frowning on younger women who do not consider the potential  election of Mrs. Clinton a special moment.

Gloria Steinem, one of the most famous spokeswomen of the feminist movement, took the sentiment a step further on Friday in an interview with the talk show host Bill Maher. Explaining how women tend to become more active in politics as they become older, she suggested younger women were just backing Mr. Sanders so that they could meet young men.
“When you’re young, you’re thinking, ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie,’ ” Ms. Steinem said.

I think the headline says it, older feminists are scolding younger women – as if that’s going to work. It really sounds like, “In the old days I had to walk two mile uphill both ways, you kids don’t know how good you have it.”
Ms Steinem’s remark about the girls going where the boys are, I can’t think of anything more insulting. If anything I’d say the reverse is true.

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The women’s liberation movement: you will be liberated when you do as *I *tell you! :rolleyes:

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Ain’t that the truth?! :cool:

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I do think a lot of feminists that were activists in the 60s and 70s see Secretary Clinton winning the Presidency as a culmination of a lifetime’s works, but younger women haven’t experienced the same stereotypes and are more concerned with the issues that affect their generation (i.e., age trumps gender), so they are supporting Senator Sanders.

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Well, this middle aged woman is not supporting the woman in either party. :rolleyes:

And that’s what I really dislike about feminists. They don’t care who is the best candidate, they just want it to be a woman to make a point. Self serving, not for the greater good of this country.

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#6

Such is the case with progressive special interests.

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Or they are just sick of the establishment, which is interesting considering Sanders has been in government about as long as I’ve been alive.

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Does anyone see the bitter irony in feminists supporting a woman who condoned her husband’s abuse of scores of women, sexually and physically?

Bill Clinton should be held to the same standard as Bill Cosby and other accused rapists.

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It’s not just by gender, either. People these days are so desperate to put people into the white house based on their skin color rather than their qualifications.

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#10

Fair enough observation.

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I think it’s more that Senator Sanders is addressing issues like college expenses and student debt, which is a great concern for younger voters. I also think that Sanders is idealistic, which appeals to young, where Secretary Clinton is pragmatic.

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#12

I those kids realized there is no such thing as a free lunch.

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That’s what happened to a large degree with Barack Obama.

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Exactly!I

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As much as I would like to gloat over what appears to be misfortune for the Democrats, I don’t see this as particularly good news for Republicans.

With 2 candidates in the Democratic field, if Sanders loses, the fems will still vote for Clinton rather than cross party lines or stay home on election day.

With 5 or 6 in the Republican field, and with the difference between them so vast, the disenfranchised Republicans who see their candidate get passed over for nomination will either stay home or possibly bring in a 3rd party.

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#16

I don’t think so,not this time around.The mantra is anyone BUT Hillary,or whoever the eventual Dem nominee may be.

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Originally Posted by Thom18 View Post
It’s not just by gender, either. People these days are so desperate to put people into the white house based on their skin color rather than their qualifications.

I think you are giving far too much credit to voter’s feelings on race…the real reason Obama won in 2008 and 2012 was that while McCain and Romney were the strength of the Republican Base, that strength didn’t translate well to Centrists, and it is centrist voters, not one party’s Base or the other that elects Presidents.

The GOP has been in transition since the early 90s, but until they figure out who they are, they are likely to control 1 or both houses of congress, but the White House is not going to be easy to pick up.

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#18

Yeah, major generalization here. Most of the “feminists” (ie, men and women who want the female gender to have equal humanistic rights) I know will not be doing this.

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#19

What?

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#20

How does Hillary “condone” his behavior?

And I don’t recall Bill Clinton being accused of rape or abuse.
Was he?
The women he was with–Gennifer Flowers, Monica L, etc–all had consensual relationships with him.
Those he propositioned who turned him down, he did not force himself upon as far as I recall. If so, please give details on this in case I’ve missed something.

If not…how can you put him in the same category as an accused rapist?
Someone who is a dawg and cheats on their wife is not a rapist.

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