[quote="guanophore, post:4, topic:312994"]
Your sense is right on that it is not possible for the Father to forsake the Son. This is a violation of the doctrine of the impenetrable Trinity (Divine perichoresis).
The modern innovation of the idea that God poured out His wrath against sinners on Jesus while He was on the cross, and turned His back on the Son is a heresy emanating from the Reformation, specifically Calvin and followers. It underpins the doctrine of substitutionary penalty, also a heresy.
Wonder if this explains why Gandhi did not become a Christian ; his contacts might
have been mostly nonCatholic , who too subscribed to the heresy and made him possibly think that the Christian truth / God was not all that much difft . from the many hindu gods who too embody very much the traits of fallen nature , of envy, lust, lies , fighting with each other etc : - , bringing about a fatalistic sense of peace and acceptance /tolearnce - from believing , if the gods cannot be any better ..
' My God , My God , why have You abandoned me ..' is what Adam should have cried , right after eating the fruit , when he/they felt ashamed and alone , to recognise that it is he /they , who had abandoned God , a Father , who still came searching for them and gave them hope that one day , the enemy hold would be broken , through The Woman !
Feeling abandoned by God, often from the same circumstances as above, is very much part of our times too and would explain , one way or other, our struggles to keep rebelling , in unfaithful ways !
The Lord, allowing Himself , to feel the pain of the separtion , after having willed , to lay down His life , so that The Spirit can be poured into the hearts of His children , a Spirit , to undo what the enemy spirit has done for centuries , a Spirit , to help us to trust again, in the goodness of God , in The Father, who is one with The Lord ..
Thus , our Lord allows the sufferings , laid down His life, so that His children too, would come to HIm, may be esp. through HIs Mother, to feel the comforting closeness , to His love and remain in hope , to drive away the enemy lies that would try to bring about despair !
' My hour has not come yet ' - did He foresee this hour, when it is the presence of The Mother , that brought Him, the comfort , at the human level ..a nature that He had also allowed , to feel pain and sorrow and thus no longer was all in the prefection of goodness that God had created us in ! and thus to again ,
In this too , He show us The Way , to allow The Mother , to help to relieve the despair ..when the enemy can come in with the same tactics , even in the form of subtle or overt hatred against parents , which can lead to many ungoldy decisions !
Thus, .meditating on her sorrows, to know that The Lord allowed such , so that , in the midst of the failures and suffeirngs of oneself or the other , to have
the oneness of compassion and the the Holy Spirit to alight and and strenghten , just as He did , for the bl.Mother too ..thus to not let the wine of trusting love , to run out ..
to save one , from the same lie , from The Garden, on how The Father does not love us enough !
May many who feel abandoned too and thus have turned to the enemy company , through various life style choices and such , be comforted and strenghtened , through the Spirit , who ever shadows The Mother , to be thus led into the Heart of the Triune God of total sharing and love !