Gowdy: Mueller ‘Clearly Didn’t Write the Report’

I knew I wasn’t going to vote for Trump or Clinton so I was scrambling to find a decent third party for the 2016 Presidential Elections. The Constitution Party candidate Daryl Castle was who I voted for in 2016. Afterword, I got a suggestion to look at the American Solidarity Party. They seem to have the best fit for my ideology but unfortunately, they don’t have many followers. I really thought more people would vote third party in the 2016 Presidential Election. Though I knew the Constitution Party wouldn’t win, I thought it would give the Republicans and Democrats a wake up call to change their party views. No such luck. If you come across any better candidates, I’ll be watching the forum for your post. G-d bless.

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He has tipped the SCOTUS scales where it ought to be.

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I’ll give him that, although a little too much on the conservative side, in my view. I’ve always thought the Supreme Court Justices should be as centrist as possible, preferably non-political if that were possible.

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Yes, but today’s ultra-conservatives are similar to the Centrists of 20 years ago.

Both parties appear to be moving further left.

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I disagree. I believe the left has moved further left, but the right has moved further right. A good topic for another thread.

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You can’t tell that from the recent budget deal.
Obama style deficits during a great economy is not “moving to the right. “

The problem isn’t that Mueller didn’t write the report, it’s that it is not clear that he even read it.

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Yes basically. Trump does not follow the politically correct religion. Rather deplorable according to some. There’s your real grounds for impeachment from the Left.

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It is more divided because Trump won and the Democrats bitterly resent it and don’t want him to have another term. So they and their media criticize him every single day. What’s the percentage of negative coverage now? 92% isn’t it?

As you know, he has unemployment at a historic low; the lowest for blacks and Hispanics ever. Real wages are rising for the first time in decades. The stock market is up 50% from where it was when the election was held. He is actually getting some results with the immigration problem, fighting against the “open borders” Democrats every step of the way. (Some of them won’t even vote for humanitarian aid…“the worse, the better”)

Our allies might not like our political system or any conservative (they didn’t like Bush either) but they know they’re safer than they were previously because of our military strengthening. As to the working poor, see “lowest unemployment” and “rising wages” above.

And of course, he has appointed two prolife justices and many more judges. Reinstated the Mexico City policy, allowed defunding of Planned Parenthood, reversed the anti-Catholic HHS Mandate.

And you condemn him because of his manners? What did you think of Harry Truman’s or LBJ’s manners?

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Anymore “centerist” means pro-abortion.

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Gibberish. We hear too much of it which is a big problem. My concerns are POLICY concerns and I’d like them to be discussed much more than the vermin attraction or slum lord complaints re: Trump restaurants or Kushner rentals…Too much of that, and more POLICY issues, now that I’ll look forward to. Twitter arguments and opinions don’t interest me.

Perhaps not economically, but on the social issues, I believe, and not only based on reaction to the far-left Democrats.

Maybe, though Trump doesn’t seem like a poster boy for social conservatism, except maybe on abortion.

That is your unsupported conjecture.

I thought the country was more divided under Obama.

While the link is from a very conservative source, they link to the research

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DENNYINMI . . .

I haven’t heard ONE republican (a bonus) say that the Russians were not a huge factor in our democratic elections . . .

Well DENNYINMI. You’ve heard a Democrat say it.

Obama said it right BEFORE the 2016 election. (Before the phony Russian collusion narrative was trotted out by the Democrats and their media outlets.)

. . . Because democracy, by definition, works by consent, not by force. I have never seen, in my lifetime or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place.

It’s unprecedented. It happens to be based on no facts; every expert, regardless of political party, regardless of ideology, conservative or liberal, who has ever examined these issues in a serious way, will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found, that — keep in mind, elections are run by state and local officials, which means that there are places like Florida, for example, where you’ve got a Republican governor, whose Republican appointees are going to running and monitoring a whole bunch of these election sites.

The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida, it’s because of those people that you have to watch out for, that is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn’t really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you want out of a president.

If you start whining before the game’s even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job . . .

. . . I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even — you could even rig America’s elections, in part, because they are so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved.

There is no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time. And so I’d invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.

. . . it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to make sure that the American people benefit from an effective government.

And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he’s said about me or my differences with him on my opinions, and escort him over to the Capitol, . . . peaceful transfer of power.

That’s what Americans do.–Barack Obama

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What does the exhortation you provided by B. Obama have to do with the Russians interference in our democratic elections?

I am not the least bit sure how you think that you link responds to meltzerboy2’s post.
But despite the headline and story offered The Last Refuge you might have notices the the actual data show that a a plurality of respondents think race relations are getting worse.

Who was President when all this stuff was supposedly happening?

The whole point about Obama’s attitude and dismissiveness towards the Trump Campaign’s complaints (“Well, I don’t know if I’ll accept the results; I’ll see” and wiretapping complaints and other things) was that no one expected him to win. Even on Election Day, no one expected him to win. So Obama was very, very careful to not do or say anything that would de-legitimize Clinton’s win, because Clinton was going to continue his legacy, and he wanted to protect that. Which is why all of this narrative we’ve been beaten over the head with for the last three-ish years smells of being manufactured outrage from the get-go to anyone who’s been paying attention… because of the timing, and the fact that whenever the subject matter was brought up prior to Election Day, it was immediately deflected as being a total non-issue, thank you very much, stop whining about stuff, and go play the game.

Countries interfere with other countries’ elections all the time. I can think of two elections Obama interfered with himself: going to the UK and speaking against Brexit (“Oh, people who want Brexit are saying, “We’ll just make our own trade agreements with the US.” Well, that’s nice, but maybe they ought to be talking to the President of that country. And while we love you guys, it’s really difficult to make a bunch of small trade agreements with 50 countries, when we can just make one trade agreement for all the EU. So I suppose, if Brexit goes through, we’ll do some US-UK trade. But y’all are at the back of the queue.”) as well as trying to oust Netanyahu during the 2015 elections. Ten seconds on Google brings up other instances where the former administration tried “community organizing” and spending millions of dollars around the world to influence the elections… but that’s just another day in global politics, y’know. Except when we used to do it, it used to be to keep communism from getting a foothold, or to keep democracy thriving in various corners of the world, and in Macedonia/Kenya/Libya/Honduras/Egypt, the supported causes aren’t quite so classical-democracy…

But at the same time, even though it’s “another day in global politics”, in this specific case—

“The Democrats have argued for three years that evidence of collusion is hidden just around the corner,” Nunes said. “Like the Loch Ness monster, they insist it’s there even if no one can find it.”

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Is it possible that the evidence Jordan, Nunes, et al are looking for has been redacted in the report? What about that private session the Senate had with Junior that still is hidden from the public? And why won’t Trump testify under oath? No coverups, my foot.

Who was the Senate Majority Leader who blocked every Obama move?

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