Great comments by V.G. of Indy Archdiocese re: TLM

Msgr. Schaedel, Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis, had some very interesting comments regarding the Traditional Latin Mass in the most-recent edition of THE CRITERION (official publication of the Archdiocese).

For those who don’t know him, Msgr. Schaedel is an ardent supporter of the Traditional Latin Mass, and also of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter.

The entire article can be found online here.

Be Our Guest / Msgr. Joseph F. Schaedel

Traditional Latin Mass has a devoted following in Archdiocese of Indianapolis

Controversy has been swirling like incense ever since Catholic News Service published a recent column about the pre-Vatican II Latin Mass by Father Peter J. Daly. The column also appeared in the Aug. 17 issue of The Criterion.

The Aug. 24 issue of The Criterion featured letters from readers critical of Father Daly’s column. Two writers mentioned the beautiful celebration of the traditional Latin Mass at Our Lady of the Most Holy Rosary Church in Indianapolis.
As pastor of Holy Rosary Parish, along with our associate pastor, Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter Father Michael Magiera, I can say that we are grateful and proud.
As vicar general of the archdiocese and as pastor of a parish that has offered the traditional Latin Mass along with the Novus Ordo (post-Vatican II) Mass for nearly 10 years, I can only say that my observations and experiences are not the same as Father Daly’s.
We are one, unified parish. We are growing; we are getting “younger.” I would have to say that his statements about the “old Mass,” and how and why it is celebrated the way it is, are simply misleading.

To begin with, Catholic News Service is operated by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. It is certainly inappropriate for any columnist—particularly a priest—to use CNS as a forum to vent about or to second-guess a recent decision made by the Holy Father.
Accompanying the pope’s moto proprio on the use of the Roman liturgy prior to the reform of 1970 is a letter addressed to the bishops. The second paragraph of his letter comments about the confusion created by “news reports and judgments made without sufficient information.”

The moto proprio takes effect on Sept. 14. No one is in a position to
second-guess the decision before it even takes effect, much less to criticize it simply based on very limited (and evidently flawed) personal experience or personal preference.
I believe that the pope is genuinely interested in unity with those inside or outside the Church who have been alienated over authorized or unauthorized changes in the liturgy. To ram one’s opinions (liturgical or otherwise) down people’s throats as Father Daly did in his column hardly seems “in the Spirit of Vatican II.”
More importantly, take into account the Holy Father’s sense that people long for the “sacred” and transcendent in the liturgy.
More than 12 years ago, the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin spoke at the annual meeting of the National Federation of Priests’ Councils in San Diego. In soaring imagery, Cardinal Bernardin reminded priests that they are to be “bearers of the mystery of God.”
As the late prelate acknowledged a crisis of confidence and confusion among priests then (and today), he exhorted priests to embrace the role as “bearers of Sacred Symbols … who draw others to God’s love in Christ.”
Particularly in today’s world, people long for that sense of mystery. The liturgy enables us to enter through Jesus Christ into the Mystery Who is God. Pope Benedict XVI must be keenly aware of this; he has a worldwide perspective on the life of the Church.
On the Feast of the Assumption, Aug. 15, Bishop Salvatore Matano of the Diocese of Burlington, Vt., offered the pre-Vatican II Latin Mass (“The Extraordinary Rite of the Eucharist”) in St. Joseph Co-Cathedral.
The church was packed with people of all ages. Bishop Matano commented, “And if this is what it takes to fill our churches, so be it!”
I am not yet convinced that the recent moto proprio will be what it takes to fill our churches.
But my own experience makes me certain that Father Daly was wrong when he wrote: “But almost nobody will come.”
He and others who jump to the same conclusions need to “wake up and smell the incense.” (Msgr. Joseph F. Schaedel is vicar general of the archdiocese and pastor of Our Lady of the Most Holy Rosary Parish in Indianapolis.) †

I love Monsignor Schaedel. He is such a gift.

His column was in response to a syndicated column in the diocese newspaper that said that the Tridentine Mass was dying.

Masses at Holy Rosary in the Extraordinary Form are usually packed with young families. Msgr. Schaedel is consistently there to distribute Holy Communion. His homilies are always solid and orthodox.

Even though his homilies may be orthodox, I was very disappointed in the parish and with the Criterion about a year or so ago.

The frontpage had a huge spread and pictures of the celebration of the anniversary Mass of the “M” place we are not to mention here. The Mass took place at that parish and “M” was highly promoted.

That has left a very poor impression of that parish with me.

Well, no parish is going to be perfect. And, Monsignor Schaedel is not perfect. He does a great job though of being a very balanced pastor. He is a big proponent of the Tridentine Mass, but he also has to take a lot of flack from some far right Catholics who attend the Indult Mass there. I think he does a great job with both the English and Latin Mass. It’s does say something about the popularity of Latin Mass since Latin Mass is better attended the English Mass.

I know that some people who are not called to the Latin Mass drive down to the English Mass at Holy Rosary because their own parishes have abuses in their liturgies.

In fact, if my parish had abuses, I believe that is the step I would take. :slight_smile:

Hi, IndyAnn.

I’m not sure what you mean by “the ‘M’ place.” Could you elaborate in a private message?

Make that two private messages, please. :slight_smile:

Medgigorie. I don’t think we are supposed to discuss it.

Yes, Medjegoria is a banned topic for discussion, but the name can be mentioned. So, let’s please return to the OP topic. Thank you. :slight_smile:

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