Hamas Wins 73% Of Vote in Nablus Election

Is this what the neoconservative ideologues had in mind?

Hamas swept 73 percent of the vote in the West Bank’s largest city, Nablus, one of three major towns and cities in which it won local elections, according to preliminary results released Friday.

The victory deals a harsh blow to the ruling Fatah party just six weeks ahead of the January 25 parliamentary poll.

haaretz.com/hasen/spages/657860.html

IMHO there is very little difference between Hamas and Fatah

Wow, nothing like finding sour grapes in an ocean of hope.

[quote=gnjsdad]Is this what the neoconservative ideologues had in mind?

Hamas swept 73 percent of the vote in the West Bank’s largest city, Nablus, one of three major towns and cities in which it won local elections, according to preliminary results released Friday.

The victory deals a harsh blow to the ruling Fatah party just six weeks ahead of the January 25 parliamentary poll.

haaretz.com/hasen/spages/657860.html
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Maybe actually having to govern will teach them that blowing people up is not a viable strategy for nation building.

[quote=gnjsdad]Is this what the neoconservative ideologues had in mind?
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EU may cut aid if Hamas wins at Palestinian polls

The European Union’s foreign policy chief warned Sunday that the EU could halt tens of millions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians if the militant Hamas group wins next month’s Palestinian elections and fails to renounce violence.

The threat by Javier Solana reflected growing international concern that Hamas, which has killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bombings and remains committed to Israel’s destruction, could win the Jan. 25 parliamentary vote…

Also Sunday, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said plans to allow Palestinian convoys to travel between the West Bank and Gaza Strip were postponed indefinitely due to security concerns. The “safe passage” is considered vital to the Palestinian economy and a key component of an accord brokered last month by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice…

In new violence, Israeli troops overnight shot dead a man on the edge of the Gaza Strip they said was trying to breach a security fence and enter Israel, the army said. Palestinian medical officials identified the dead man as Mohammed Abu Dikri, 34. It was not immediately known if he was a militant.

[quote=gilliam]IMHO there is very little difference between Hamas and Fatah
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Agreed.

[quote=gilliam]IMHO there is very little difference between Hamas and Fatah
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There is a world of difference. Fatah is Arafat’s organization - secular in orientation, with a nationalist appeal. Also notoriously corrupt.

Hamas is religious in orientation, and determined to fight the corruption that permeates the PA state apparatus.

Fatah has come to terms with Israel’s existence. Hamas has not.

[quote=gnjsdad]There is a world of difference. Fatah is Arafat’s organization - secular in orientation, with a nationalist appeal. Also notoriously corrupt.

Hamas is religious in orientation, and determined to fight the corruption that permeates the PA state apparatus.

Fatah has come to terms with Israel’s existence. Hamas has not.
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What does all this have to do with the “neoconservative ideologues”? The Palestinians have been having elections for a while.

[quote=gnjsdad]There is a world of difference. Fatah is Arafat’s organization - secular in orientation, with a nationalist appeal. Also notoriously corrupt.

Hamas is religious in orientation, and determined to fight the corruption that permeates the PA state apparatus.

Fatah has come to terms with Israel’s existence. Hamas has not.
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Arafat = Terrorist. Why he remains a hero to the left is mind-boggling.

Is this what the neoconservative ideologues had in mind?

The same as NAZI got elected. with enough propaganda and repression, anyone can be voted

[quote=Jay74]Arafat = Terrorist. Why he remains a hero to the left is mind-boggling.
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Why he remains a hero to Palestinians is a question worth asking, too. They’d probably have a state by now if they’d had better leadership.

[quote=Philip P]Why he remains a hero to Palestinians is a question worth asking, too. They’d probably have a state by now if they’d had better leadership.
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How was Stalin’s cult of personality created?

[quote=bgaCath]How was Stalin’s cult of personality created?
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I wouldn’t go that far. Arafat did a lot of harm to the Palestinan cause, and has a lot of blood on his hands, but a comparison to Stalin doesn’t really hold.

Also, Stalin had the whole USSR thing going for him - a gigantic state, with all the powers of it at his disposal. Rather a different situation.

[quote=Philip P]Why he remains a hero to Palestinians is a question worth asking, too. They’d probably have a state by now if they’d had better leadership.
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That’s a very fair question. On the other hand, he (and those who agree with him) controlled most of the media in his region.

[quote=Philip P]I wouldn’t go that far. Arafat did a lot of harm to the Palestinan cause, and has a lot of blood on his hands, but a comparison to Stalin doesn’t really hold.

Also, Stalin had the whole USSR thing going for him - a gigantic state, with all the powers of it at his disposal. Rather a different situation.
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the comparison is to show a much worse figure than Arafat can create cult of personality and be regarded as a hero. let alone Arafat

[quote=rlg94086]What does all this have to do with the “neoconservative ideologues”?
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Because everything is President Bush’s fault. Duh.

– Mark L. Chance.

Sorry. I forgot. :smiley:

[quote=mlchance]Because everything is President Bush’s fault. Duh.

– Mark L. Chance.
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