[quote=DaMaMaXiMuS]Greetings and Peace unto you all,
Here in New York City there is a religious group/cult called the Black Hebrew Israelites. That teaches that the image we have today of Jesus Christ as a white man was actually modeled after Cesar Borgias son of Pope Alexander VI, also known as Rodrigo Borgias.
The story goes that during the period of the renaissance Pope Alexander VI commissioned artist such Michael Angelo, Leonardo Da Vinci, etc., to have his son Cesar be the model for the images of Christ. And that many pre-existing works accurately depicting Christ as having a dark or darker skin were done over or white washed. I believe it was said this was commissioned by the Alexander VI after the death of his son Cesar.
Since the Pope died in 1503, and Cesare Borgia in 1507, that was very prophetic of the Pope
They had a book called, “The Borgias”, by Alexander Dumas
It’s a novel - not a biography
and on the cover of the book it had a picture of a painting of Cesar Borgias. The Black Hebrew Israelite group then had a picture of Jesus Christ that they compared side by side. I’ll admit there were similarities or resemblances. Then they have art books of Christianity that show art work prior to the period of the renaissance that show artist renditions of Christ as being darker in complexion.
[size=3]They even had a book, I think it was called, “The Icons”, that had a picture of Mary and the baby Jesus in her arms that very dark skinned, pretty much what most would term, black. Finally, they hit me with some scriptures from the bible, in particular, Rev. 1:14-15, Daniels 7:9, Daniels 10:5-6 to prove that Christ is described as a dark skinned man. [/size]## Since Christ is not referred to in those passages, such a claim is both ignorant, and an abuse of the texts ##
This in turn for them proves their other claims that the biblical Jews were not white people but black. Then they showed me a scripture in Wisdom of Solomon 14:12-21, and said that this scripture foretells of the alleged deception perpetrated on the depiction of Christ. And that this is the image being spoken about in Rev. 13:14 and parts in Rev. that people are deceived into accepting.
[size=3]They use a book called, “The thirteenth Tribe”, by Arthur Koestler, that claims 90% of the Eastern Jews are converts dating back to the 12th century who came from the Khazar Empire in Kazaria, an area between the Black and Caspian Seas. Supposedly, during the struggles between the Christian Empire and Muslim Empire, both of these groups attempted to recruit the Khazars to help fight the other. Supposedly, the Khazars saw that both Christianity and Islam had their beginnings is the religion of the Jews and chose that. This is how they present their evidence and prove to their claims.
So basically they claim that when people are praying to images or statues of Christ, [/size]## [font=Georgia]We do nothing of the kind - we pray to Him Whom they represent ##[/font]
[size=3]which incidentally they believe is idolatry, it’s from artist interpretation going back to Cesar Borgias. And that the true image of Christ[/size]## When people intend to pray to Christ, they do not intend to pray to Cesare Borgia - or anyone else. Did those who voted for Kerry intend to vote for Bush ? If not - why should our intentions in our praying be directed to those we are not intending to pray to ?
For some reason, whenever religion is discussed, common sense (I wish it *were *common - it is all too rare) vanishes like a vapour. ##
From what I’ve read allegedly Alexander the VI was one of the few wicked Popes, supposedly there are all types of charges ranging from murder to incest, also much political corruption. Supposedly, he even had family members placed in the College of Cardinals. Now I don’t know how true any of this is, because most of what I’ve read is from off the internet. But I don’t know what the official word is from the Vatican.
“Official word” about what ?