[quote="Pax et Caritas]If you like a mass in the vernacular, with the Priest facing the people, with communion under both forms, with the Altar replaced with a table, you would have loved Luther, Cranmer and the other heretics of the 16th century, for these are the exact same changes they made.
I guess, in your opinion, the heretics of the 16th century (who hated the Mass and whose stated goal was to destroy it by gradualy changing it) were just a little ahead of their time.
I can see why you would not like what I wrote, but it si true. All of the external changes that we find in the Novus Ordo, are the changes that the heretics of the 16th century employed - every one of them.
So, my questions is, were these excommunicated heretics just a little ahead of their time? Is there any chance that a sizeable part of Catholic liturgists today (the ones in the key positions) consider that Luther, and not Trent, was right in the 16th century debate? Is that why so many Bishops are against the Traditional Mass? Let’s ask Cardinal Ratzinger…
Cardinal Ratzinger: “A sizeable party of Catholic liturgists seems to have practically arrived at the conclusion that Luther, rather than Trent, was substantially right in the sixteenth century debate… It is only against this background of the effective denial of the authority of Trent, that the bitterness of the struggle against allowing the celebration of the Mass according to the 1962 Missal, after the Liturgical reform, can be understood.”
Never forget: Lex orandi, lex credendi.