Help: 2 Tim 1:9


#1

Hi

I am looking for a catholic commentary of 2 Timothy 1:9. Anyone can help please?
I have the CCSS on Timothy but it does not seem to address that part.

This verse has been bugging me for few days already.

Thanks in advance for your help


#2

I think that only dealing with a God who is outside of time…eternal with no beginning and no end and seeing always and only present is the only way this verse makes sense.

God made us for Himself to be with Him forever. That was always His intent…regardless of what ours has been through salvation history.

We ARE the body of Christ.

Think of it all this way…when God the Father looked at His Son … He also saw us…because we are a part of Jesus’s body…that’s how God see’s …everything is present.

We humans on the other hand see things in a sequence…time. History had to play out before our eyes to grasp this.

God bless


#3

Great verse.

9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity, 2 Tim 1

Kinda reminds me of what Paul says here.

4 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
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“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven,
And whose sins have been covered.
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“Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.” Rom 4


#4

I am not sure what part of verse 9 is bugging you, but I suspect it is the “not according to our works” part. Be sure to read it together with the surrounding verses, not just by itself. I don’t have a Catholic commentary per se, but if you follow the footnotes and cross-references in the USCCB online Bible, you will see that this idea appears elsewhere in Paul’s letters, and elsewhere in the Bible, for example, in Psalm 143. I understand it as an expression of humility as we recognize our human powerlessness in comparison to God’s power, love, and mercy.


#5

From the Ignatius Study Bible
Commentary of 2 Tim 1:9

Salvation is a process initiated by God, so that the grace we receive is entirely free and unmerited by our efforts (Rom 6:23; Tit 3:5). At the same time, God calls us to cooperate with his grace in order to become holy and reach our heavenly home (Phil 2:12; Heb 12:14). See also CCC paragraphs 1996 and 2008.

“ages ago”: The plan of salvation, now manifest through the historical events of Christ’s life, was formulated in the hidden counsel of God before Creation came into being (Jn 17:3-5; Eph 1:4).

Hope this helps, :smiley:

KfG


#6

[SIGN]You can lead a horse to water
but you cant make them drink[/SIGN]

:smiley: :stuck_out_tongue:


#7

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