Help - my mom thinks this band is satanic?

I’m 15 years old and living with my Catholic parents, although I don’t consider myself Catholic. I’m a big fan of underground industrial and dubstep music, but I mostly manage to keep this a secret from my parents. Lately I discovered this band on the internet and started listening to them, and my mom caught me. She absolutely hates this band, tells me that I am sinning for listening to them and I have no idea why.

I haven’t listened to all their songs but to my knowledge they’re all instrumental. My mom and me have had disagreements about what bands I listen to, but she is really vocal about this one. I think she’s completely wrong, but at the same time she’s my mother and must want to look out for me. Can any Christian music lovers help me understand why she feels so strongly about this particular band?

The link you posted didn’t lead to a band.

Really? That's a band?

I will show my age and admit I have never heard of any form of music called "underground industrial and dubstep." This must be the prejudice of my years, but my reaction is, with a name like that, it's got to be bad! ;)

Do try some Mozart! The "Ave Verum" is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written. Maybe if your Mom hears a bit of the greats wafting from your room, she will be less concerned for your immortal soul.

I can’t help but suspect this is a phony thread to promote this band ?

This.

To me,a band would be this.

http://www.savioursofrock.com/interviews/images/dragonforce03.jpg

Yes,that is dragonforce

When you are 15, you think that your parents do not know anything about religion, teen-age music and culture. But as you grow older you are amazed at how much your parents have learned.
Listen to your mother, like it or not, when you are 15, your mother is always right. When you are older, supporting yourself and not living under the roof your parents are paying for, you can listen to any darn music you want to. Until then, you are obligated to do as they say.
For what its worth, I left home to go to sea at 15....and never had a "teenagehood" ( Only adults are allowed aboard ships. American style teenagers are not allowed.) I did not miss my parents until I saw them several years later, and the hurt I caused them was very slow to heal, and it took a lot of guts on my part,eating crow, to make amends. Even in later years when I was a ships Captain, my father still considered me to be, quote: "an international hobo".

Alot of modern music, especially industrial electronica, is just obnoxious noise to parents. The state of mind of most young adolescents, especially when they’re in their phase of rebellion to one degree or another, is well suited to this type of music. It “speaks” to them in some way. But it’s just chaotic, uninspired noise to your mom. She senses probably that it speaks to you, that it speaks to that side of you that is exploring the world, looking into various types of lifestyles that others live, seeing what’s out there, what’s different, what’s fun.

She knows most of this exploration in our modern world leads to just that…the world…full of the fleshy desires and temptations that draw you into the world, and away from God. This music validates that speculation for her. Now add in that she is Catholic, that she knows much of what speaks loudly to today’s youth is ultimately the arsenal of the father of lies, she probably understands and connects with the reality of spiritual warfare. And she probably over-reacts too…be a loving mom to a growing boy whose soon to leave the nest.

She’s responsible for you. Her duty is to raise you in the faith. You probably never looked at it like that before. But she has an obligation to you, an obligation she promised to God. She wants to make sure you’re well-equipped to make it through life’s challenges when she can’t be there for you as she is now. Give her a break. Go to Mass with her on Sundays…get back into your Catholic faith. Nowadays, there’s alot of things in the Church that can help you understand alot of things about the world you live in. Give it a chance. You might even be able to keep listening to that music if you want…who knows?

Peace.

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This.

To me,a band would be this.

http://www.savioursofrock.com/interviews/images/dragonforce03.jpg

Yes,that is dragonforce

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You're missing the drummer,singer,bassist and keyboardist. ;)

I'm afraid to click theOP link.

But to the OP, dubstep music is harmless as long as it doesn't have immoral samples (moaning women, blasphemy, profanity).

Wow guys, I didn't expect this many replies! Thank you!!

The link you posted didn't lead to a band.

Really? That's a band?

"Bands" with only one person in them are really common in this type of music. Ever heard of Nine Inch Nails? :p

I will show my age and admit I have never heard of any form of music called "underground industrial and dubstep." This must be the prejudice of my years, but my reaction is, with a name like that, it's got to be bad!

It can't be all bad, and some of it (well, Song of Saya's stuff at least) is really beautiful. Nine Inch Nails and Filter have really calming, peaceful songs as well. This is the song "La Mer" by NIN: link

I can't help but suspect this is a phony thread to promote this band ?

LOL, don't worry it's not. But looking over my post again I can see how it could be construed as me promoting this guy. ;)

She's responsible for you. Her duty is to raise you in the faith. You probably never looked at it like that before. But she has an obligation to you, an obligation she promised to God. She wants to make sure you're well-equipped to make it through life's challenges when she can't be there for you as she is now. Give her a break. Go to Mass with her on Sundays....get back into your Catholic faith. Nowadays, there's alot of things in the Church that can help you understand alot of things about the world you live in. Give it a chance. You might even be able to keep listening to that music if you want...who knows?

I go to Mass every Sunday, and my mom wants to talk about it with my catechist. I know that she's my mother and that she wants what's best for me, but why does she have to be this obnoxious about it? But you're right. I think I need to talk about it with her.

I've also messaged the guy on Reverbnation about my mother's satanic accusations are valid or not, so what he has to say - a secular viewpoint - should be interesting. I'm also asking for permission to post his response on this forum, so hopefully it doesn't violate the rules.

How is it supposed to be objectionable, precisely? 'Cause I can think of lots of music I'd prefer nobody listened to, that I wouldn't consider immoral.

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How is it supposed to be objectionable, precisely? 'Cause I can think of lots of music I'd prefer nobody listened to, that I wouldn't consider immoral.

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I honestly have no idea. There's some parts of it that are really abrasive and harsh-sounding, but I don't think a harsh and nihilistic sound automatically implies a connection to Satan. I love my mother dearly and I respect her but I think in regards to this music she's just being foolish.

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I honestly have no idea. There's some parts of it that are really abrasive and harsh-sounding, but I don't think a harsh and nihilistic sound automatically implies a connection to Satan. I love my mother dearly and I respect her but I think in regards to this music she's just being foolish.

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Oy weh. You're doomed. I have no idea what you should do.

I listened to it and it sounds like a hybrid of techno, industrial, and anime music. I don't know anything about the band. The only thing I could find on the internet about "Song of Saya" referenced a video game. Without any available information there's really little I could personally say about the music, for good or for bad. Without more information I'm not endorsing the music, nor am I condemning it, but I will tell you that you should listen to your mother. Especially if you're under 18.

addendum:
On further research, I have discovered this article from Wikipedia. It doesn't look encouraging to me. link

*Saya no Uta (沙耶の唄?, lit. Saya's Song) is a visual novel by Nitroplus with horror elements.

Like Nitroplus' heavily Mythos-inspired Demonbane series, Saya no Uta's plot is somewhat Lovecraftian. Although direct references to the Cthulhu Mythos are minimal, the dark, eerie atmosphere is reminiscent of his works.

Many plotlines of Saya no Uta are similar to the manga Phoenix - Resurrection, specifically the life of Robita. At one point of the dialog, the main character explicitly references these similarities.

On February 24, 2009, the complete English 1.0 translation patch was released. The patch, while requiring a copy of the original game, translates the entire script in the game, allowing the fans who may not understand the Japanese language to enjoy the story as well. As of 7/09, this patch was no longer online, as JAST USA bought the rights.

A three-issue comic book based on Saya no Uta, called Song of Saya, has been produced by IDW Publishing.[1][2] The issues were released from February though April 2011 [3].

As of July 2011, Jast USA has officially announced that Saya no Uta will be released in English.*

After reading this article I would have serious questions about the music as well as the videogame. If the storyline is based upon anything written by HP Lovecraft(who I am familiar with), I would avoid it like the plague.

I found extensive videos referencing Saya no Uta on Youtube. The graphics are outright disgusting, as well as the subtitles, which reference excrement and gruesome violence to such an extremity that I couldn't possibly quote them.

Is this Satanic? Most definitely. What exactly is it about this that you enjoy?

And by the way, I agree with your mother whole heartedly. This stuff is more than awful. It's downright disgusting.

Demonbane was hilarious, though—Cthulhu plus a giant robot powered by the Necronomicon, only, of course, rather than a book it's a cute girl. And Herbert West, the Reanimator, acted like he thought he was a rockstar.

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I found extensive videos referencing Saya no Uta on Youtube. The graphics are outright disgusting, as well as the subtitles, which reference excrement and gruesome violence to such an extremity that I couldn't possibly quote them.

Is this Satanic? Most definitely. What exactly is it about this that you enjoy?

And by the way, I agree with your mother whole heartedly. This stuff is more than awful. It's downright disgusting.

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That fist clip is from a horror visual-novel: it's a video game. You seen Silent Hill? Silent Hill makes that stuff look like Kirby. Heck, even the Flood, in Halo, are pretty creepy (just...why does it still have the head stuck on, after the tendrils burst through the top of the host's ribcage? Is the Gravemind just trying to be gross? wouldn't put it past him).

And you know what? I bet it doesn't have the characters' powers accessed by shooting themselves in the head, like Persona 3 ("Seriously? Teen suicide. Well, do you have any other ideas?" "Sure. Uh, 'Bulimic Witches'? No? You don't like that. Huh.")

I don't know what that page was (other than that the guy watches PreCure), and the connection to the visual novel Song of Saya is pretty unclear. Dubstep, can you find a video of the music you like from Youtube (I don't know if we're allowed to link those, so just tell me what word you searched and where it was on the list)? I have a feeling I might be able to tell you exactly what to tell your mother, if this is what I think it is.

I have a feeling that this is just a video game soundtrack.

Thanks, Theophilus777 and Hastrman. I had no idea about the Saya no Uta thing until you brought it up. I watched a couple videos of it and it was pretty sick and disturbing. :(

The website for the band doesn't mention anything about the game, so I really hope the two are unrelated. As far to my knowledge my mom has never looked it up on google, so I don't think she knows.

@Hastrman: I researched it further and the game Saya no Uta has a separate soundtrack. I don't think this is related, it's just named after the game. (Saya no Uta means "Song of Saya" in Japanese)

Yeah, I was wrong. What it is, is, the thing Dubstep likes (which is...um...I'll just say it's not to my taste) is an Indie musician, who named his thing after a video game. And being a bigger nerd than me, it's a Japanese video game that's not out here in the states. That's the only connection. So just tell your mom the thing's just done by some nerd, and the only thing it uses from that (horror) game is the name.

Basically this would be like if you'd gotten into Clannad, the band, and people accidentally confused it with Clannad, the erotic visual novel (it's got sex-scenes, but the main plot is a tear-jerking romance—in Japan, it's actually standard to re-release that sort of game without the sex-scenes, and sell huge numbers to people who are too young or too decent for porn, including many girls). The only connection would be the name.

My advice, now that we know that? Make your mom a deal RE: where you can listen to it, because it's definitely an acquired-taste type of music. But I'm 90% sure it's completely harmless (well, morally, don't listen to it too loud).

My son is into Dubstep music. He has played some of it for me. Some I like, some I don't - personal preference. My son has a friend who is in a Dubstep band.

If you like it, listen!

If not, don't listen.

FWIW, I am a mom to teen boys, and I have a wide varied taste in music. One of my favorite bands is actually Tech N9ne!;)

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