Help with public school providing sexual content to students


#21

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#22

High school. It’s a vital time, as it’s when a person starts to form their mature opinions (I mean this as a broad statement) and the empathy and understanding of complex issues that can be introduced to an individual during these years can have a lifelong impact as to the formation of their understanding of the world.


#23

Speak to parents of other kids in her class. Ask there opinion on the suitability of the books (they may need to examine the books to know what’s in them).

An ally or two would be helpful.


#24

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At some point she must confront these things if she wants to begin to comprehend how evil manifests into the world.

It is a question of what’s an appropriate age to “confront these things”.
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And with whom should they be confronted.


#25

My question was is it off limits for your daughter because of the rapes, murders, etc.


#26

I am an avid reader and an adult mother of 2 grown sons. I have spent lots of money buying large quantities of books over the years. I have put down books and even gotten rid of some of them because of subject matter that I just did not feel was proper for me to read or was too graphic for me. Just because it is written on paper & bound together in a book doesn’t mean I have to read everything I pick up. If I honestly don’t feel comfortable reading something, even if I’ve paid my hard earned money to buy it, I will not read it. If it is a classic, a best seller, a #1 on any list I don’t really care. I read what I am comfortable reading. I just don’t think high school should force these kinds of books on their students. Maybe it would be better to send a list of maybe 5-10 possible books the student could read and do the classwork on and let the student pick.


#27

Odd. My son attended 13 years of public school. Any time when he could select his own reading material it was fine to select the Bible.


#28

You seemed to have messed up the quoting. I was quoting another poster and putting a question to her.


#29

That’s a 6 year duration. 14/15 (y9) and 17/18 are not interchangeable.


#31

Oh, in that case, no. The Old Testament is not off limits. However, she has not asked to read it. If and when she does, it will not be off limits because we can explore it together and put it in the context of the entirety of Salvation History, of man’s quest and definite need for God, and His coming to save us. I would not want her to read the Old Testament with someone who does not understand Salvation History. Or who does not believe in original sin, etc.


#32

This a thousand times.

I disagree, to be intellectually challenged you need to—quite often—step outside your comfort zone. Universities are currently being made into a “safe haven” for everyone, where students are just given a worldview that they are comfortable with.

But the world isn’t comfortable, and many people in the world don’t live comfortable lives. Literature allows us to see into the lives of others, and do be able to deal with it.

I would recommend instead of changing books, to work with your daughter through it and explain it to her. Help her understand.

This will give her skills to deal with similar occurrences rationally and intellectually, instead of demonising works or the world we live in.


#33

She was given these two options:

The Glass Castle by Jeannette Walls
A Million Little Pieces by James Frey

I have not read either one. When I looked it up, The Glass Castle seems ok. A Million Little Pieces is reported to have a scene in which a girl is gang raped by a drug dealer and fourteen of his friends.

Does anyone have an opinion of either of these books?


#35

Million little pieces is a work of fiction.

Glass Castle is still quite disturbing when it talks about graphic childhood neglect.

Of the two, Glass Castle is probably preferable. But if she is a sensitive child it still will likely disturb her deeply.


#36

A Million Little Pieces is a literary hoax. The author fabricated parts of the book and passed them off as true. I have no idea why a teacher would be assigning a phony book for students to read. The fact that it was a giant fake would bug me more than the subject matter.

I thought The Glass Castle was a good book, but it deals with the true life experiences of a severely neglected and sometimes abused family of children. This teacher really wants her class to read dark subject matter. I wonder why?


#37

Yep, Glass Castle talks about sexual abuse of children among other sorts of abuse.

A Million Little Pieces, well http://ew.com/article/2003/04/25/million-little-pieces/

Heck, “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn” had sexual themes and I think I read that one in 6th or 7th grade.


#38

That is, I think, the misunderstanding. Or disagreement.

Let me explain.

She has encountered many “evils of the world” in her own life. And is still healing. She has lost people she loves, dealt with a parent with chronic illness, witnessed and experienced domestic violence and therefor her parents separated. She underwent treatment for PTSD. She has Tourette’s syndrome. Her father has been over seas and she has faced that fear and has come to understand the results of the evils of war on good people. She has been on mission trips to see firsthand poverty and the hidden evils of our society. She has taken a course on St. John Paul II’s Theology of the Body so that she can learn the beauty and dignity of human sexuality properly cherished. She visits the elderly in nursing homes to alleviate their loneliness and hear their stories. She is a remarkable person!

She does not need books with a callous disregard for human sexuality in order to see into other people’s lives. She has seen that side. She needs books that show her the dignity and beauty of mankind fulfilled.

And there are hundreds of books that can both explore evil and present beauty that don’t have those themes for high school kids. When she is 18-22 in college, she will BE an adult. She will explore all kinds of stuff.

And it is not her teacher’s place to explore sexuality with her. It is English class.


#39

Yes. It appears that this is the one.


#40

My mom wouldn’t let me read that one. Said it had been condemned by the Church :slight_smile: I read it in college I think. I could see why Mom wasn’t comfortable with it.


#41

What state are you in? Many offer free cyber school that gives the same credits as a public high school.

The teacher seems hellbent on giving her graphically disturbing material.

I do agree with the idea of challenging children’s views, but at the same time, when the “opt out” options are nearly as bad as the “opt in” the teacher is simply trying to push an agenda.


#42

I daresay all of this subjective thought reminds me why I majored and minored in math and science subjects. In this day and age you will never have an argument about calculus being dirty or physics being politically incorrect.


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