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#1

I left in quite a frenzy, supposedly out of frustration with the debates here, but actually more because I had to take time off the Internet (in general) in order to get my real life in order. This still applies, so you won’t see me here so much as I used to. But now the holidays are coming, with the 21st of December, Yule, for me to celebrate, and the 25th of December, Christmas, for you to celebrate. So I’ve come here to wish you a

Merry Christmas! :slight_smile:


#2

Ditto!! :smiley:

:blessyou:


#3

Merry Christmas, HD. Nice to see you back again.


#4

Hey, nice to see you back. Hope you are feeling better. I’ll be celebrating Yule & Christmas this year, so I’ll be twice as busy :stuck_out_tongue: (my boyfriend & I are hosting Christmas at our apartment, since it’s our first Christmas there). Hope you (and everyone else) has a great holiday season. :slight_smile:


#5

I’m back for this little greeting, but I can’t spend so much time on the ’Net as before, because then I’d suffer from no-real-life breakdown (that’s what made me feel so bad then). I’m celebrating Yule by myself, since I’m too early in my relationship with my girl to let her know about my religion.

On Sunday I have my weekly lesson of Judaeo-Arabic. One of the students with me in that lesson is an Arab Catholic girl (most of the Arabs at my university are Muslims, but some are Christians), and I hope I can remember to wish her a merry Christmas when the lesson is over. I just thought, if I’m going to greet her, the real-life Catholic, this Sunday, I might as well log on here to greet the online Catholics as well. :wink:

Merry Christmas or merry Yule to those who celebrate the birth of the Divine King (the Son or the Sun).


#6

[quote=Heathen Dawn]I left in quite a frenzy, supposedly out of frustration with the debates here, but actually more because I had to take time off the Internet (in general) in order to get my real life in order. This still applies, so you won’t see me here so much as I used to. But now the holidays are coming, **with the 21st of December, Yule, for me to celebrate, **and the 25th of December, Christmas, for you to celebrate. So I’ve come here to wish you a

Merry Christmas! :slight_smile:
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How, exactly, is Yule celebrated on Dec. 21st?


#7

HD.
May God bless you during this wonderful season of grace and renewal!

Paul


#8

Peace, Prayers, and Blessings to you! :slight_smile:


#9

[quote=Heathen Dawn]On Sunday I have my weekly lesson of Judaeo-Arabic. One of the students with me in that lesson is an Arab Catholic girl (most of the Arabs at my university are Muslims, but some are Christians), and I hope I can remember to wish her a merry Christmas when the lesson is over. I just thought, if I’m going to greet her, the real-life Catholic, this Sunday, I might as well log on here to greet the online Catholics as well. :wink:
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HD,

Depending to which of the Catholic Churches she belongs, Latin or one of the Eastern Churches, you may have plenty of time yet. Some of the Eastern Catholic Churches in the Near and Mid-East celebrate Christmas on January 6 and a few according to the Julian Calendar, which will make it January 19, IIRC.

Merry Yule and Merry Christmas to you.

Many years,

Neil


#10

[quote=“Tom of Assisi”]How, exactly, is Yule celebrated on Dec. 21st?
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Very similarly to Christmas. The evergreen tree is there, the Yule log, eggnog, gift-giving, everything. The difference is that the Bible, Jesus and Abraham’s God are out of it, the Goddess and the Horned God are in, and we bless each other for a year of fertility (that means sex too).

[quote=“Irish Melkite”]Depending to which of the Catholic Churches she belongs, Latin or one of the Eastern Churches, you may have plenty of time yet. Some of the Eastern Catholic Churches in the Near and Mid-East celebrate Christmas on January 6 and a few according to the Julian Calendar, which will make it January 19, IIRC.
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She’s Latin, that’s what she said to those who asked her what type of Christian she was. Even if she doesn’t celebrate Christmas on 25 Dec, I’m going to wish her a merry Christmas this Sunday, and if she says her Christmas falls on a later date, I’ll give her the greeting card then.

Her name is Nibbeen, by the way.

Thank you all for the blessings! :slight_smile: Merry Christmas! :smiley:


#11

[quote=Heathen Dawn]Very similarly to Christmas. The evergreen tree is there, the Yule log, eggnog, gift-giving, everything. The difference is that the Bible, Jesus and Abraham’s God are out of it, the Goddess and the Horned God are in, and we bless each other for a year of fertility (that means sex too).============================================= HI Heathen, There is NO such thing as christmas without CHRIST. I pray that this Christmas Christ will bring you His PRESENCE. :wink:
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#12

[quote=SPOKENWORD]HI Heathen, There is NO such thing as christmas without CHRIST. I pray that this Christmas Christ will bring you His PRESENCE. :wink:
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Except that Heathen_Dawn was not saying that he was celebrating Christmas. He said that celebrating Yule was similar to celebrating Christmas, except that Yule does not involve Jesus.

However, it is also possible to celebrate Christmas without involving Jesus. There is the “spirit of Christmas” - the ideas of sharing, giving, love, togetherness with family etc. As I said above, I will be celebrating both Yule and Christmas, but I will be celebrating Christmas as I just described. Yes, it is true that Christmas is meant to be the celebration of the birth of Jesus, but it is also a fact that in today’s world, that is not the only way it is celebrated. IMO, I see nothing wrong with celebrating all the good qualities that Christmas brings out in people (although when it comes to holiday shopping good qualities aren’t always to be found).


#13

[quote=BlessedBe13]Except that Heathen_Dawn was not saying that he was celebrating Christmas. He said that celebrating Yule was similar to celebrating Christmas, except that Yule does not involve Jesus.

However, it is also possible to celebrate Christmas without involving Jesus. There is the “spirit of Christmas” - the ideas of sharing, giving, love, togetherness with family etc. As I said above, I will be celebrating both Yule and Christmas, but I will be celebrating Christmas as I just described. Yes, it is true that Christmas is meant to be the celebration of the birth of Jesus, but it is also a fact that in today’s world, that is not the only way it is celebrated. IMO, I see nothing wrong with celebrating all the good qualities that Christmas brings out in people (although when it comes to holiday shopping good qualities aren’t always to be found).
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Those that do celebrate christmas without Christ only recieve earthly peace. Christs peace is available to all who recieve Him. Jesus is the reason for the season,recieve His presence.[presents]. :thumbsup:


#14

YULE
msu.edu/user/rohdemar/earth/sabbats/yule.html


#15

[quote=BlessedBe13]Except that Heathen_Dawn was not saying that he was celebrating Christmas. He said that celebrating Yule was similar to celebrating Christmas, except that Yule does not involve Jesus.

However, it is also possible to celebrate Christmas without involving Jesus. There is the “spirit of Christmas” - the ideas of sharing, giving, love, togetherness with family etc. As I said above, I will be celebrating both Yule and Christmas, but I will be celebrating Christmas as I just described. Yes, it is true that Christmas is meant to be the celebration of the birth of Jesus, but it is also a fact that in today’s world, that is not the only way it is celebrated. IMO, I see nothing wrong with celebrating all the good qualities that Christmas brings out in people (although when it comes to holiday shopping good qualities aren’t always to be found).
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so you will have your mommy buy you presents on two days…very clever.


#16

[quote=Exporter]YULE
msu.edu/user/rohdemar/earth/sabbats/yule.html
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From the article: Yule nativity sets will depict father time, mother nature, and a baby sun-god instead of the Holy Family. Weren’t father time and mother nature characters from the Smurfs tv show? I didn’t know pagans “worshipped” them.

My question is how does the “horned” god Pan and the moon goddess fit into all this? Yes, the “true” origins of Yule are amazing indeed…scarcely believeable in fact. It can only be explained by a complete melt-down of our public schools. People worship a nativity set consisting of father time and mother nature!!!

Brave new world indeed.

Happy Yule to all pagans…may mother nature bless you with fertile sex…or something like that :whacky:


#17

Merry Christmas, Heathen Dawn. God bless you.


#18

Ah, glad to see you, Tom of Assisi, in top form as usual … never resisting a jab at neopaganism, a comparison of its belief to the Smurfs, Tolkien or the like. Not that I care, as long as I’m allowed to practice my religion in peace. But for accuracy’s sake, we don’t worship those metaphors you cited. We believe the Goddess and the God are literally real. On Yule we celebrate the birth of the Sun Child, the God, the Divine King, from the womb of the Goddess. The reason for this holiday is the season.

The single coin in the barrell makes the most noise. Thanks to all the others, who have been charitable. :slight_smile:


#19

Brother Hrolf says "Throw the Yule Log on Heathen Dawn!"
I lift a tankard of mead to you and say “Drink hael! Waes hael!” May the White Christ pursue you like the hound of heaven! Aaaargh!

Hrolf


#20

This thread has wandered off topic and is now closed.

God Bless,


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