"Hidden Manna" of Gustave Dore?


#1

Dear Catholic Answers Forum,

Recently I've been inspired by Gustave Dore, an artist who did extensive Bible drawings, some of the best I've seen in fact. A company called Dover seems to publish most of his stuff, and The Dore Bible Illustrations is a wonderful book containing 241 Bible drawings, perhaps engravings is the more correct word. I specifically decided to study Dore after hankering for some outstanding Revelation artwork. The Dore Bible Illustrations contains six of them, and the back of the book says, that the Dover book contains "all 241 plates -- long out of print-- which Dore executed for the Bible." Yet recently I was Google image searching for Dore's art, and, stumbled upon the following depiction of John's vision of Christ on Patmos, which I'm quite convinced must be Dore's. vermande.us/tim/bs_revgd01a.jpg.

The skill of it makes me feel like its Dore's, but I'm merely an admirer of his and can't claim to be an art expert. Why would Dover have excluded such an excellent piece? It isn't in the above mentioned book. It makes me wonder if there are other "hidden manna," which for some reason were excluded? I emailed Dover themselves and am waiting for their response.

God bless,

James


#2

Might this be what you are looking for?...hope so!

Pax Christi

THE DORE GALLERY OF BIBLE ILLUSTRATIONS

The Project Gutenberg EBook of The Dore Gallery of Bible Illustrations,
Complete, by Anonymous, Illustrated by Gustave Dore

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Title: The Dore Gallery of Bible Illustrations, Complete

Author: Anonymous
Illustrated by Gustave Dore

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Last Updated: October 12, 2012

Language: English

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#3

Slight-off-topic: Dover reprients alot of out-of-prient and older books. :cool: :slight_smile:


#4

Dore also did wonderful illustrations for a host of other books and poems, including The Divine Comedy, Don Quixote, and The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. There are some fantastic editions out there that include his work.


#5

[quote="tabycat, post:3, topic:328158"]
Slight-off-topic: Dover reprients alot of out-of-prient and older books. :cool: :)

[/quote]

Especially those with prints. I have one with all of Alexander Wilson's bird prints.


#6

No, its not the style of Dore. What you linked is actually Von Carolsfeld.

If you go to my website below you will see some of his and Dore’s artwork when you click on the orange flags embedded in the scripture.

credobiblestudy.com/roman/en/catholic-bible-douay-rheims-ot-book-genesis-gen-chapter-1/1/1


#7

Hello Ireneaus,

Thanks for your helpful response. I looked at Von Carolsfeld’s artwork and found it quite similar to Dore’s, several great, Michaelangelo-esque depictions of the Ancient of Days. So I just ordered one of his Bible art compilations which Dover also publishes. I also emailed Dover the publisher themselves about this question, about the Christ on Patmos picture which I pasted at the start of this thread, but however their response contradicts that it’s Carolsfeld, so I’ll just post it below since now I’m still confused.

Tracy_McDonald Tochrysoenlight@yahoo.com CCfjust2000@yahoo.com Dear Mr. Dale,

I am copying Felix Just on this reply, as he sent me an email regarding your Dore inquiry.

I am writing to let you know a website confirms it is Dore; many sites confirmed it was Dore’s, one of which is indicated below –

google.com/imgres?q=dore+John%E2%80%99s+Vision+of+Christ+on+Patmos&sa=X&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS461US461&biw=1360&bih=556&tbm=isch&tbnid=433o5ighqPeKTM:&imgrefurl=http://www.vermande.us/tim/bs_apoc01.pdf&docid=DVRoJId9ZEWHSM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Zjeven%2525C3%2525AD_Janovo.JPG&w=1016&h=859&ei=8eWsUeejCMXF0AH_hICoCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=132&tbnw=165&start=0&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:83&tx=84&ty=53

If I can help you with anything else, please contact me again at tracy_mcdonald@doverpublications.com, and I will be happy to assist you.

Best Regards,

Tracy McDonald

Customer Care Specialist

DoverPublications.com

From: Jim Dale [mailto:chrysoenlight@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:38 PM
To: Tracy_McDonald
Subject: [SPAM]Re: Thank You for Your Message to Dover

Dear Mrs. McDonald,

Thank you for the response. I’m pleased to hear it’s Dore as I originally thought. I’ll shortly describe to you my intent with these questions. Reading the Bible and going to church has influenced and benefited me, to the extent that I aspire to pastor a church someday. And, I feel as though, to study Christian art has certain healing properties to it. Dore’s art, I find to be quite beautiful, and find it frequently occurring to my mind’s eye. I remember that St. Ignatius of Loyola, in his Spiritual Exercises, mentions that being able to visualize the Bible is of great importance to spiritual meditation. In, addition, I feel as though my mind’s been very poisoned by TV, and find I often am burdened with evil seeming visualizations, which are often unconscious, which I desire to be cleansed from. So, I think that Dore’s art would be an excellent medium for being able to progress in these sorts of meditations. Revelation is perhaps my favorite book in the Bible, first one I read and even now it chills my bones. I had seen Dore’s art before and admired his technique, so one day, especially hankering to look at great Revelation artwork, I found myself thinking to myself, that Dore must have great Revelation artwork in his oeuvre. He surely does, though I was originally a little underwhelmed that he’d only produced six. But after discovering the additional seventh, which you’ve confirmed to be his, I’m particularly curious if others had been excluded from Dover’s volume, and if so, if you’d be able to point out where they are for me. I find the Vision of Christ on Patmos very beautiful, and am sad at the thought of there being other “hidden manna” of Dore’s artwork, particularly of the Bible.

God bless,

James


From: Tracy_McDonald Tracy_McDonald@doverpublications.com
To: "chrysoenlight@yahoo.com" chrysoenlight@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: Thank You for Your Message to Dover

Dear Mr. Dale,

Thank you for contacting Dover Publications regarding John’s Vision of Christ on Patmos.

I am writing to let you know it is Dore, but we have no other information as to why it is not included in our editions.

If I can be of further assistance, please contact me via email at tracy_mcdonald@doverpublications.com, and I will gladly respond.

Best Regards,

Tracy McDonald

Customer Care Specialist

DoverPublications.com

I noticed how Von Carolsfeld was influenced by Durer in his artwork so I also picked up a few volumes by Durer. Can you recommend other artists who produced similarly outstanding Bible art, particularly of Revelation?


#8

It is from Bibel in Bildern by Carolsfeld

pitts.emory.edu/dia/detail.cfm?ID=11966


#9

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