Highway to the danger zone? Obama picks non-pilot to head Air Force in Pacific


#1

washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/air-force-command-nominee-is-1st-woman-non-pilot/


#2

:nope:

Ed


#3

What’s the problem as long as we insist that all our present and future adversaries promise to use only politically correct high level commanders when they confront our interests?:rolleyes:

General Robinson may be the best person for the job. I am in no position to judge this, but I do worry that our military could operate for any reason other than the one given in the preamble to the constitution, “to provide for a common defense.” The armed services are not a jobs program or a political tool for any president.


#4

Maybe the commanding admiral of a future enemy’s navy will only ever have “sailed” a desk.


#5

Most USAF officers are not pilots, and the USAF is a lot more than airplanes (been there!). One need not be a pilot to be an effective commander.

But, having said that, I disagree with Obama on just about everything…
:smiley:


#6

The military is not known for making good decisions, so just because all the previous commanders have been pilots doesn’t mean that it was a wise criteria. So this woman may not be a bad choice, or she might be. Time will tell.


#7

Maybe in the future the Air Force can shoot rainbow cannons and sugar plum bullets at it’s adversaries.


#8

For the navy, you have to be an unrestricted line officer aka warrior-type in order to take major command. This is like having a supply officer in charge of a carrier battle group.


#9

But that is the future of the USA military. At least under the current hope and change administration.


#10

What administration? This is the Tragic Comedy of Bad Decisions Administration. This is the change reality to the current fads of the rich administration.

And the Pentagon continues to hang up whenever I call about my ideas for strategic actions in certain parts of the world. I suspect that will be ending soon…

Peace,
Ed


#11

OK…

Here’s her bio:

af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/108119/lieutenant-general-lori-j-robinson.aspx

EDUCATION
1981 Bachelor of Arts degree in English, University of New Hampshire, Durham
1986 Squadron Officer School, Maxwell AFB, Ala.
1986 Distinguished graduate, Air Force Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev.
1992 Master of Arts in education leadership and management, Troy State University, Ala.
1995 Master’s degree in national security and strategic studies, College of Naval Command and Staff, Naval War College, Newport, R.I.
2001 Air War College, by correspondence
2002 Air Force Fellow, The Brookings Institution, Washington, D.C.
2005 Senior Executive Fellows Program, Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass.
2013 Leadership at the Peak, Center for Creative Leadership, Colorado Springs, Colo.

ASSIGNMENTS

  1. January 1982 - June 1982, Student, Basic Air Weapons Controller School, Tyndall AFB, Fla.
  2. June 1982 - January 1983, Air Weapons Controller, Homestead AFB, Fla.
  3. January 1983 - January 1985, Instructor Air Weapons Controller and live-fire senior director, 81st Range Control Squadron, Tyndall AFB, Fla.
  4. January 1985 - February 1986, Chief of Training; and Chief of Standards and Evaluations, 848th Air Control and Weapons Squadron, Wallace Air Station, the Philippines
  5. February 1986 - September 1986, Air Weapons Controller, Air Weapons Controller Division, Air Force Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev.
  6. September 1986 - December 1986, Student, Air Force Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev.
  7. December 1986 - October 1989, Instructor and Course Manager, Air Weapon Control Division, Air Force Fighter Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev.
  8. October 1989 - August 1992, Chief of Current Operations and command briefer, Headquarters Pacific Air Forces, Hickam AFB, Hawaii
  9. August 1992 - May 1993, Air Weapons Controller, 552nd Air Control Wing, Tinker AFB, Okla.
  10. June 1993 - June 1994, Chief, Weapons and Tactics Branch, 965th Airborne Warning and Control Squadron, Tinker AFB, Okla.
  11. July 1994 - June 1995, Student, College of Naval Command and Staff, Naval War College, Newport, R.I.
  12. June 1995 - September 1995, Student, Armed Forces Staff College, Norfolk, Va.
  13. September 1995 - December 1997, Command, Control and Communication Officer, Deputy Chief of Staff, and executive assistant to the Director, Defense Information Systems Agency, Arlington, Va.
  14. December 1997 - June 1998, Student, mission crew commander training, Nellis AFB, Nev.
  15. June 1998 - February 2000, Commander, Command and Control Operations Division, Air Force Weapons School, Nellis AFB, Nev.
  16. February 2000 - July 2001, Executive Officer to the Commander, Air Combat Command, Langley AFB, Va.
  17. July 2001 - June 2002, Air Force Fellow, The Brookings Institution, Washington, D.C.
  18. June 2002 - August 2004, Commander, 552nd Operations Group, Tinker AFB, Okla. (March 2003 - May 2003, Vice Commander, 405th Air Expeditionary Wing, Southwest Asia)
  19. August 2004 - August 2005, Commander, 17th Training Wing, Goodfellow AFB, Texas
  20. August 2005 - September 2006, Director, Secretary of the Air Force and Chief of Staff of the Air Force Executive Action Group, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
  21. September 2006 - May 2007, Chief, Air Force House Liaison Office, Legislative Liaison, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
  22. May 2007 - August 2008, Commander, 552nd Air Control Wing, Tinker AFB, Okla.
  23. September 2008 - October 2010, Deputy Director for Force Application and Support, Directorate of Force Structure, Resources and Assessment, Joint Staff, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
  24. October 2010 - June 2012, Director, Legislative Liaison, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
  25. June 2012 - April 2013, Deputy Commander, U.S. Air Forces Central Command; Deputy, Combined Force Air Component Commander, U.S. Central Command, Southwest Asia.
  26. May 2013 - present, Vice Commander, Air Combat Command, Langley AFB, Va.

SUMMARY OF JOINT ASSIGNMENTS

  1. September 1995 - December 1997, command, Control and Communication Officer, Deputy Chief of Staff, and Executive Assistant to the Director, Defense Information Systems Agency, Arlington, Va., as a major
  2. September 2008 - October 2010, Deputy Director for Force Application and Support, Directorate of Force Structure, Resources and Assessment, Joint Staff, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C., as a brigadier general
  3. June 2012 - April 2013, Deputy Commander, United States Air Forces Central Command and Deputy Combined Forces Air Component Commander, Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, as a major general

FLIGHT INFORMATION
Rating: Senior Air Battle Manager
Flight hours: More than 900
Aircraft: E-3B/C and E-8C

MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS
Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit with two oak leaf clusters
Bronze Star Medal with oak leaf cluster
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal with three oak leaf clusters
Aerial Achievement Medal
Air Force Commendation Medal with two oak leaf clusters

So explain to me, with specific reference to her credentials, why she is unqualified?


#12

How would we know that this is a bad decision? Especially when incompetence in commanders is the norm?


#13

:thumbsup:


#14

The entire Obama presidency has been a highway to the danger zone. But in keeping with the rock metaphor, perhaps its closer to the ACDC song.

Ishii


#15

To be honest the only thing cited in the article to cast doubt on her appointment is from “a retired pilot.” Additionally, this retired pilot makes the claim that being a combat pilot makes a person more capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong in a combat situation or that a non-pilot can comprehend what they will be asking their pilots to do in a combat situation. This just strikes me as patently absurd.

Was there any uproar when only a transport pilot was put in charge of the Africa Command?

Another series of questions this article does not address is what percentage of pilots are actually combat pilots? Of those combat pilots how many have actually seen action? Of those who have seen action how many have faced an enemy that posed a serious threat to them or their aircraft? Of those that faced a serious threat how many came from enemy aircraft?

I suspect the number of “qualified” officers would then begin to plummet rather dramatically.

ChadS


#16

Makes me think of Gilbert & Sullivan:

“Stick close to your desks
And never go to sea
And you all may be rulers of the Queen’s navy!”


#17

Very true for seagoing commands, but, for example, the C.O. of a Naval Communications (NSG) Station is usually a line officer experienced in communications intelligence, and need not have served at sea (except maybe as OIC of a NSG Detachment afloat).


#18

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