Historical Question about Photius


#1

Ive been researching the history of the Photian schism a bit, and it seems I have come across a lot of conflicting information…can anyone tell me how Ignatius exactly was deposed and how Photius came to power in the see of constantinople?


#2

geocities.com/trvalentine/orthodox/guettee09.html

From the 7th paragraph onwards.


#3

Thank you. That source, however, really does not answer the question, rather it adds just one list to the long list of books that are contradictory to each other on the nature of Ignatius’s deposition and Photius’s elevation.

One thing, however, caught my attention.

This person had the audacity to write:

Many of the bishops before him had been equally exposed to the caprice of the court. Among his predecessors, and even in the see of Rome, Ignatius might have found examples of men who preferred to renounce a dignity they could no longer exercise with profit to the Church, rather than to excite by useless opposition disturbances which always injure it. He did not see fit to imitate these examples, and refused to renounce his dignity in spite of the entreaties of several bishops.

This is ridiculous. It is here implying that Ignatius did a bad job as a Patriarch. He did an excellent job, and he had the integrity to do something which Photius didnt have the courage to do; he stood up for good morals and condemned the behavior of Bardas.


#4

[quote=El Católico]This is ridiculous. It is here implying that Ignatius did a bad job as a Patriarch. He did an excellent job, and he had the integrity to do something which Photius didnt have the courage to do; he stood up for good morals and condemned the behavior of Bardas.
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That is not what he is implying at all. All that is stated is that Ignatius was not willing to humbly relinquish his post for the greater good of the church as other patriarchs had done before him. His insistance on hanging on to the position after the empereor had deposed him only caused factions to grow in the church, turning brother against brother. It doesn’t matter if he was personally justified in taking that stand or not since by doing so he fostered division in the church.
You are also wrong about Photius not having the courage to do the same. Why do you think Photius was deposed and Ignatius restored? Basil had murdered the Emperor Michael and his uncle Bardas and seized the throne. Photius refused to admit Basil to Holy Communion (excommunicated him) on account of his crimes so the new emperor had him banished to a monastery and reinstated Ignatius. On has to wonder if Ignatius had the courage to refuse the Emperor Basil communion as Photius had. He had stood against Bardas, but Bardas was only the uncle of the Emperor, not the Emperor himself (all though he was acting in the stead of his nephew).

Christos Anesti! Christ is Risen!
John.


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