I think that’s just a hint of how Hollywood treats women. Remember the Donald Trump scandal with that recording of how he talked about beautiful women and grabbing them by the you-know-what…well I thought it was crude and gross, however, I wasn’t the least surprised.
I used to know someone who was quasi-in-the-know about L.A. and that scene. Women are treated horribly. Grabbed at will and worse. They are like a buffet to sample. It’s horrible. So when the Trump scandal hit, I thought the hypocrisy was at it’s highest with all the bigwigs in the media, in Hollywood and in politics. That stuff was par for the course.
All you need to know is that Marlon Brando was in the scene. It was done at his suggestion. The girl was some young nobody. End of story. If you are the money making male on set, that’s it. You can literally grab someone by the you-know-what and everyone’s cool beans about it. The shock & awe being expressed is :rolleyes: , like no one in the biz has seen it/done it/or done to.
I forgot to say though how sad I was when I read that article. That poor young woman (at the time). Not fair. Not right. It’s disgusting, and you can see it haunted her throughout her life.
And Western media only talks all the time about rapes by immigrants…lol
Read ALL of the comments.
This thread is not news at all.
No it doesn’t. :rolleyes:
How is this news?
I dont get why everyone is upset, it was not a real rape, it was just a scene in a movie, I can think of umpteen other movies that had brutal rape scenes, the first one that came to mind is one of Clint Eastwoods, Josie wales, Westerns, where he walks into the barn and brutally rapes the girl and then goes for a drink.
Yes, rape is terrible, but these are just movies, it didnt really happen, they were acting.
Am I missing something?
How did you get from Last Tango to illegal immigrants? It’s not funny to me.
The 1970s was a disgusting time - so much sex and no morality. Thank God those times are over. Though there is a lot of awful stuff now, it’s not so blatant as it was then.
Im not sure I agree with that, I think a lot of the modern stuff is way worse and much more blatant/ direct.
And really this is bound to happen, a nation that turns further and further away from God and his laws, is only going to delve deeper into evil and immorality, its certainly not going to get better.
Did you read the article? It’s all over the web,
The director of the movie just admitted over the weekend that it was indeed a rape. He and Brando conspired so it would be more ‘realistic’.
The woman in question suffered years of mental health problems and ridicule when nobody would believe her.
You missed it. To save you and anyone else who doesn’t want to read the discusting details, what happened in that scene wasn’t in the script. The director wanted to film her reaction to a real and discussing sexual violation of a 19 year old. She was a teenage actress but she was NOT acting in that scene.
It was a real rape, and all because the director thought it would make for a better scene. Just disgusting.
I think a lot of it started in the 70’s though. It was really the age of sex, drugs and rock and roll. It ruined a lot of lives.
I have yet to have anyone convince me that a sex scene in a movie does anything to advance a storyline. If’s porn, plain and simple.
That’s not what I gleaned from the article. More that the actress was told all of a sudden that “Hey we’re shooting a rape scene today!” as a way to produce the response the director wanted. And that the nastier aspects of the scene were ad libbed, and hence not revealed to her until they occurred. Still stomach-turning but not as horrid as her actually being physically raped.
I also recall a certain MASH episode involving the death of a character, supposedly the director didn’t tell any of the cast members this would happen, except for the one playing the character who announced the death to everyone else. Although that’s actually an urban legend according to Snopes.com.
But even that debunking article notes that all of the other scenes were shot before the cast was told that the character was actually going to die at the end of the episode.
She did not give consent. She was raped. There is no way to soften sexually actions against someone’s will. Even if she agreed to something, she had the right to say ‘no’ at any time and that right was taken from her.
Rape, sexual assault, gay rape and drug or alcohol rape is so common in the movie industry that any time they speak out against anyone for sexism, they look like the biggest hypocrites. The “casting couch” is very real. The term comes from actors and actresses being asked to have sex with executives, directors, producers, casting directors, etc… to get a part. If you can imagine a couch in an office where an interview takes place, you get it. Just about every actress that you recognize has probably had to do things to get where they are.
I am familiar with the industry through family members. Just look at your average movie. Women (and men) are objectified in the most degrading ways imaginable. If they can do that and call it ‘art’, what do you think their personal morals are? Furthermore, if they can think that it’s okay to ask for sexual favors before granting a job, think of how much they disrespect individuals.
Not all directors, producers, etc… are like that. There are even some Catholic people in the industry that follow their faith, but it is unbelievably common.
Young man, there is NOTHING funny about rape!!!
Your “lol” is totally inappropriate. Weren’t you the lad that was worried about being turned on at the beach by seeing women in tank tops, shorts, or swimwear to the point you kept insisting the nuns who organized the day at the shore cancel it and then made a now removed thread wanting others to agree with you?
You have a serious problem to worry about that, but make light of sexual assault! :mad:
I’m not defending what was done, but let’s be accurate. It was NOT a real rape. From the article:
The scene in question featured Brando’s character raping Schneider’s character using a stick of butter as lubricant. It was a shock to audiences in 1972 and as Schneider, who died following a battle with cancer in 2011, said herself years later, a shock to her as well. In a 2007 interview with The Daily Mail, Schneider was blunt, revealing at the time that Brando and Bertolucci came up with the idea without her, and heavily pressured her to do it when she showed up for work.
“I should have called my agent or had my lawyer come to the set because you can’t force someone to do something that isn’t in the script, but at the time, I didn’t know that. Marlon said to me: ‘Maria, don’t worry, it’s just a movie,’ but during the scene,** even though what Marlon was doing wasn’t real,** I was crying real tears. I felt humiliated and to be honest, I felt a little raped, both by Marlon and by Bertolucci. After the scene, Marlon didn’t console me or apologise. Thankfully, there was just one take.”
It was not in the script, and they pressured her to do it. So she knew what was going to happen at least a few minutes beforehand, and it was not an actual rape by her own words. We can denounce the actions of the director and Brando, but let’s not falsely accuse them of things that didn’t happen.