[quote="TheBurningBush, post:5, topic:336514"]
. I understand the virtues of celibacy in the church, but the OP clearly states that Christ said that "marriage is good but celibacy is better" I can find no references other than what he says about celibacy in Matthew:
*Matthew 19:12 * For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it. (DRA).
Christ makes no comparison to marriage whatsoever! Can anyone please find me the source of were he says celibacy is better than marriage?
PS Not being anti-catholic, I am currently in the process of conversion and trying to find answers to doctrine that confuse me or I don't understand. I appreciate helpful answers.:thumbsup:
It will help if you read passage in context:
The RSV-CE reads: 3 Some Pharisees came to him, and to test him they asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command us to give a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her?” 8 He said to them, “It was because you were so hard-hearted that Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another commits adultery.”[a]
10 His disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”
I'm sure some people interpret it differently, but Jesus certainly does seem to be affirming the disciples' statement that it is better not to marry, but redirecting the idea away from their negative reaction to his prohibition of divorce and instead to what we would call the evangelical council of chastity (meaning in this context celibacy).
All three evangelical councils, poverty, chastity (meaning celibacy), and obedience, are things that are spiritually helpful and specially recommended by Jesus Christ, but they are not necessary for salvation nor are all people made for them.