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[FONT=Arial]Just practice saying hi to people you meet throughout the day in regular life, men or women of whatever age. Make a comment about something they are doing and smile. For instance about 2 days ago an older lady was buying sweet rolls at the convenience store for two young girls. I commented and said "Oh, you must be a Grandma, because a mother would not be buying such things" and then I smiled at her. She smiled and responded. That is all, just a little fun conversation to keep in practice. This helps in life with everyone because you slowly develop skills to notice them. It is just so rare to get rejected or have a bad interaction when doing this.
Then you have the skills to "elicit values" in the course of a conversation. There are lots of nominal Catholics, so you are going to have to determine their quality no matter what. This comes after some bit of interaction.
You can always ask a woman what her favorite saint is. If she knows then you can ask why? It is a fun little thing to do. Anything can be fun for her if the guy thinks it is fun, and does it with confidence. You can then gain a lot of information based on her reaction and response. Be prepared to be able to tell her your favorite saint, what he is patron of and why you admire him. Then let the conversation flow or conclude it if you want. Remember, it works best for you to end it on a high note and then come back to her later because she will be appreciative and remember the good feeling she had at the end of your previous conversation.
No hovering until you gather courage. She has radar to see this and is already forming an opinion. See her and approach. Don't over think. You have about 3 minutes on the initial approach to make your impression. At that point she will have decided about you. Don't overstay your welcome if she is not receptive to further discussion because then you become a creep. Following this simple advice respects her and makes it easier for a guy to know how to meet women and strike up a conversation. So few guys can do this that it immediately sets you apart. The most important thing is to be noticed. The guys standing around in the back or by the wall blend into the background. It as if they are in “black and white” and the guy that has the confidence to approach is in “color.”
In this way you can use “Game” in a positive way to meet women, determine their basic compatibility with your values, have some fun and demonstrate to them that Catholic guys are not too religious to have a little bit of fun. In fact this would work much better at a club than in the grocery store, because women are receptive to talking to men and that is why they went out, for social interaction.
Another way to find out if she is Catholic is to do a “cold read.” A short while after you start the conversation say. “Hmm.. Let me look at you and tell you what I observe.” (A bit of dramatics and silliness doesn’t hurt.) “I see you as a cat person. And by the style of your shoes, I think you are…” (Really observe and you will be able to see a lot of her personality within the first 5 minutes.) Work in something spiritual. She will tell you if you are right or wrong. It really doesn’t matter if you got it right because it facilitated conversation in a fun way.
For you women reading this and thinking this is contrived. It is not. Often guys need some pointers and ideas to know how to meet women. It is not easy because it is a learned skill to not fear rejection. Guys need to be taught. Those formerly unnoticed guys are good men and everyone is served by helping the good guys get noticed and have the skills to interact.
[FONT=Arial]Keep in mind that a man is going to mess this up the first several times he tries it. So every rejection he learns something to improve his conversational skills, which will serve him well for the rest of his life in every situation, including his job. Soon he becomes a natural at this and will be able to interact with anyone without conscious effort or even a specific goal (such as meeting women).
:thumbsup:Haha, thanks a lot brother. I can tell you have studied that art of mackin. I have too, but didn't think of that many things that you have told me. Definitely will have to try & remember this, or come back to it or something. My friend has done the same & I tripped out on how he walked up to an older lady, but realized he was just trying to get into the comfort zone when he started explaining why.