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"As for praying to Mary, I have two things. First of all is the first commandment. (Exodus 20:4-5) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
This is a command not to worship anyone other than God. You can tell because God actually commanded the creation of various statues at various times. The most relevant example is probably the snake on a stick that we see on ambulances today - definitely a graven image that God specifically ordered. It was destroyed when people began to worship it but not before, which shows that statues themselves are not inherently bad for religious purposes. See the Catholic Answers tract here for more.
Second is the fact that Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the light. No man comes to the Father but by ME." There is not one single reference in scripture to praying to the dead(Mary is dead) but hundreds against it.
False. Of course, a certain reformer tossed out the books with the most references, but if you take the whole bible this is clearly not true, and even if you restrict to the parts that protestants accept today it's not really true, references are just more oblique. The example that comes to mind is when the Israelites threw a body into the tomb of Elisha and the person came back to life after hitting a bone. More directly linked to relics (which protestants also tend to not like), but the two are related.
Also, praying to saints is not trying to circumvent Jesus, sense we ask the saints to pray for us to God, and they go through Jesus. We pray for each other on earth, and ask each other to do so, and there's no reason why we should stop praying for our relatives when we move closer to God in heaven, not any reason we should stop asking people to pray for us because they are closer to God. This makes zero sense. If I can ask someone I see once a week a church to pray for my family and have that not be useless, then I can't think that it'd be useless to ask Christ's mother or some other saint to do so.
As for the Papacy, there is Scripture in I believe 1st/snd Samuel about God providing priests and prophets, but man demanding a single leader. This is precisely how the RCC split off from the Orthodox Christians, by demanding a Pope versus the "counsel" as the apostles instructed.
"You are Rock, and upon this Rock I build my Church." Nuff said.
Remember that the RCC re-wrote the first commandment(along with other Scripture) in order to protect itself from being labeled an idolater. They never expected that the common man would one day have access to the original Hebrew translations."
This is silly:
0) Eastern Catholics tend to use the same numbering as the Protestants, with no arguments from the Latin, so if the Catholic Church is trying to hide something it's doing a bad job. But even ignoring that:
1) The text was not changed at all. A full version of the Latin Catholic ten commandments has the graven images listed as part of the first commandment.
2) Latin Catholics tend to include the graven image thing as part of the first commandment because all of that is clearly talking about the same thing. This accusation is along the same lines as trying to accuse protestants of dropping the commandment to not covet "thy neighbor's wife" because (often) the protestant version of the 10 commandments combines not coveting neighbor's goods and wife into one because both are related to coveting.
3) The bible tells us there are ten commandments, and it gives us the text from which the 10 come, but it does not tell us which text goes to which commandment. Have your friend open the bible and see if there is anywhere in there a bullet point listing of commandments that was not product of later human modification. Verse numbers don't count, and in any case there are 16 verses spanning the 10 commandments and (so far as I know) Catholics and protestants use exactly the same text for both orderings. We do the best we can to divide this up into 10 commandments, and we don't change the text that is used, but in both our case and in his case the numbering is an semi-artificial thing that we added later as an aid for us. But, and again to emphasize, the textual content is the same, only the lines dividing it into chunks differ.
4) THE ONLY REASON why we even have the original texts of scripture, for the most part, is because the RCC preserved them. Had Catholics wanted to "hide their idolatry" they could have just, while painstakingly hand copying every single bible that existed before the printing press, changed a few words and destroyed earlier copies - perhaps claiming that any thing contrary was the writings of heretics. If there really was some sort of conspiracy to hide this sort of thing, that would have been easy. This might be harder for old testament stuff than new, but a direct reference to the "real 10 commandments" added in somewhere in the new testament would have made this fairly easy to do. But this didn't happen, because the text against graven images is still there.
If we had really tried to edit scripture to agree with us, then he wouldn't know because there would be no conflicting copies. (But in fact there are no conflicting copies because we use the same text.)